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Long Conversation with Peter Schwartz and Danese Cooper

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Gregory Harris Avatar
Gregory Harris
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Posted: 11.17.10, 09:46 PM
Well according to current trends as more of the world becomes like the first world with rising incomes there will be lowering birthrates. If the current trend continues this will naturally lower the worlds population and increase it income of all. However what is important to note is that with fewer people there will be fewer minds to help solve problems and fewer to invent. Of course increasing the standard of living for the bottom third will enable them to use their minds towards important myriad challenges.

Perhaps there is room for another utopian vision of the future which has an ever growing population of well to do people and therefore (hopefully) educated who will be able to overcome the (artificial and/or perceived and/or current) limits on population. Humanity has been able to progress at such breakneck speeds because of our histrionically enormous population; I think I can rightly extrapolate that our innovativeness has a very strong correlation with our free(read:non heavily religious) population.

Hans Rosling explains some of the aforementioned changes in demographics and income disparity in this talk: http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_roslin...on_growth.html
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Kelly C Hitchcock
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Posted: 11.17.10, 07:42 PM
Yes, he should've specified whether he meant the population decrease would come about through natural attrition or disaster, but since he is optimistic, I assume he means natural attrition. He didn't say the next 200 years would be full of pandemics and nuclear wars and THEN things would get good.
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Anthony69
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Posted: 11.17.10, 07:55 AM
So this Schwartz guy thinks we are moving towards a more "positive" future with the fact that in 300 years the lowest paid position/laborer in the world will be making $100,000 dollars a year?... but that is with a world population of only 2 to 3 billion... it is now 6.8 billion and rising... meaning that for "his" great future to happen we will have to "lose" between 4 to 7 billions of people between now and then depending on when the birth growth starts to decrease, when war eliminates some, when the lack of resources takes some... and we start mandatory limiting of births (like China)... in other words, in the next 300 years we'll have to prevent, let die, or kill off more people than are on this planet currently in order for "his" future to be "positive"... interesting thought, don't you think? Thank God I'll be long dead before that "Great Social Global World Economy" (no he did not use those terms but he was thinking it all the time and intimating at it) will come to pass.
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