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Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Converting Muslims to Christianity

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Author and activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali proposes that an effective tool to challenge radical Islamist ideology would be to actively convert Muslims to Christianity.

"If we don't compete, we run the risk of living in a global order where the radical Muslims win the hearts and minds simply because there's no one else competing with them," she says.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Banning the Burqa Misses the Point

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Author and activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali argues that the clash of cultures between Western secular liberalism and radical Muslim immigrants is being overshadowed by meaningless debates over burqas and minarets.
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bribri

Posted: 12.31.10, 04:48 PM

Please prove all your assertions, keeping in mind the 270 million people killed by Islam in 14 centuries, and little evidence of "lessons learnt", improvement, reform. Black Africans (slavery), Hindus, Buddhists, Christians... http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/tears-of-jihad/ Number of converts to Islam only shows that it is a very powerful ideology. The Crusades were a (ugly) response to centuries of Islamic imperialism. Nagasaki & Hiroshima, (ugly, but perhaps necessary) responses to Japanese imperialism. The alternative: invasion, maybe 1 million deaths. Christian terrorism: in Ireland, perhaps; not a global phenomenon. Evidence that Americans killed more than Saddam Hussein? How would you like being ruled by a psychopath for 30 years, waiting for his replacement by one of his (even crazier) sons?

jassim

Posted: 12.25.10, 11:50 AM

Nothing of what she have said can be proved. She merely, making accusation that the radical islamists have bording schools in Poland and Germany awere they teach children to hate!!! What proof does she have on such issue. The number of people who convert to Islam, is much higher than those who convert to any other religion. The western media over emphasizing the picture of radicalism in Islam, yet they totally, ignore, the radical hatred Israel implement on eastern Jews, and others in Israel. Since the Crusades times, Spanish Inquisitions, and bombing of Nagasaki, and Hiroshima, Christians committed more killing and terrorism, compared to what Al-qaeda did. Americans killed ten folds more in Iraq, than Saddam Hussein. You don not need to like Islam, but enough of the double bigotry.

Sarah999

Posted: 12.24.10, 09:49 PM

IMHO, the need for some people "believe and have faith" is genetic. I don't think those people are genetically predisposed to "Believe" can become atheists. So IMHO Ayaan Ali's idea is the best possible solution under the circumstances.

Ariamezzo

Posted: 12.23.10, 01:26 PM

I enjoyed this interview, but I disagree with Ayaan's idea to replace Islam with Christianity. I understand that Christianity is less of a threat than Islam, and converting Muslims to Christianity can be a good thing, but in the end we need to spread enlightenment and reason to these people. Christianity might cover up some of the evil with a bandaid, but that evil stems from faith and Christianity is still faith. We won't be able to make true progress until people move beyond faith. Perhaps it can be a temporary solution, just not THE solution. Even if Muslims do convert to Christianity, many will probably still be radicals because they'll still find equally radical verses in the Bible and many fundamentalist and violent groups to support them. From experience, people who convert from one faith to another aren't very bright. They're right in questioning the faith in which they were raised, but they simply replace it with something of equally null value, faith. Those who trade faiths don't think logically or rationally or they'd drop religion altogether. How can a thinking human being really say that their religion is infallible, and then decide to leave their religion for another religion? If the first religion was infallible and you found some flaws in it, by what method of thinking should any rational person think a different religion must be the infallible one? It all comes down to a lack of education and a lack of thinking.

Miles McCullough

Posted: 12.18.10, 09:46 PM

As a liberal I've always wondered why only the right talks about biblical values and family values, meaning faith, the supremacy of God's Will, anti-sex puritanism, and male dominance. Whatever happened to values like equal rights for all, the primacy of human well-being, and provisional beliefs based on evidence? And btw Christianity did not give us elections, universal suffrage, equal rights, habeas corpus, jury trial, or presumed innocence. That was extended to us common people by the humanism of the Enlightenment and the Renaissance, which built upon a Greek and Arab secular tradition. Religion gave us divine authority and trivialized real suffering and joy by replacing it with an eternal promise.

Cool Philosophe

Posted: 12.17.10, 11:10 PM

Dallas1, you say that secularist beliefs are an outgrowth of Chirstianity. You lump Christian values together with Greco-Roman, and Enlightenment values as if these ideas for the soul of Western civilization formed a coherent whole. This is false. These values clash on metaphysics, epistemology and ethics. The Christians that brought Enlightenment values did so inspite of their Christian values, not because of them. And, I love Ayaan Hirsi Ali, but her error here is that by suggesting an adaptation of Christian values she's just suggesting another form of cancer. You also enable that which you oppose because Christianity, like Islam, is based on Faith. Moreover, there is no obligation to accept the premise that we should give them any ideas to accept. If they're a real threat we defend ourselves. Period.

Dallas1

Posted: 12.17.10, 05:32 PM

Gunner, I don't recall that the Christianity of 1950 forced women into virtual slavery, that they were considered property by men, that women were stoned to death for adultery, that they were considered chattel, that they couldn't drive, that they needed their husband's position to leave the home, that they could be legally beaten according to Christian beliefs, etc. Do you really believe that 1950's Christianity (for all its many faults) was in 1950 as barbaric as Islam? Like I mentioned before, it's time that we reaffirm who we are. The fact is, secular Westerners' value systems have been hugely shaped by Judeo-Christian beliefs. Throw out Christianity wholesale and the pythons will creep in from the jungle to fill the vacuum. The religion of anything-goes liberalism and collectivism has no historical track record of working at all. The lyrics to John Lennon's leftist mantra "Imagine" are the philosophy of a cow, and by following that path we will anything but his utopia. Let's keep the best of what we have in our society, reform what needs to be reformed, work on our conscious morality, and remain clear about what our egalitarian beliefs are. The freedoms of Western society were hard-won and must be protected.

Dallas1

Posted: 12.17.10, 05:10 PM

Gunner, unfortunately it's the Islamists who are using our egalitarian laws (lawfare) to do exactly the opposite. They have the whole West divided and confused - look what's happening to Geert Wilders in the Netherlands, Elizabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff in Austria - they are facing prosecution for merely telling the truth. If Western nations don't quickly redefine the concepts of "religion" and "human rights" to allow for this unprecedented manipulation and protect the original intent of these commendable ideals, Shari'a law will eventually dominate. The enemy had made it clear, and the fifth column within our ranks are doing all they can to enable them. Look at the UK, with hundreds of Shari'a courts. In Canada polygamy is now acceptable, provided the muslim man gets married elsewhere (c/w multiple welfare cheques).

Gunner

Posted: 12.17.10, 03:48 PM

I'm not a big fan of Hirsi Ali, but she makes a strong point here about the debate on Islam. The debate on a mosque or the burqa is of little importance compared to the true clash of value's between the western culture and Islam. And I agree that there is no compromise when there is a clash of fundamental value's. In that case the dominant culture should always prevail. The true debate should indeed be about the political dimension of Islam that simply is incompatible with Western law/politics. And the social dimension of Islam can be compared to the social dimension that christianity had only 60 years ago, namely the inferior position of women in religion. If Islam isn't able to develop towards the value's that modernity has accomplished then government/law should take action to simply make them.

le_meteque

Posted: 12.17.10, 02:29 PM

it's really funny to hear all that...it's more entertaining than circus...and she really think that she is a model of liberalism.

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