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Debate: Future of Western Relations with the Muslim World

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PaoloPaolo49 Avatar
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Posted: 08.02.10, 08:27 PM
Japan post WWII had democracy imposed upon it.
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3rik
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Posted: 08.02.10, 06:12 PM
I didn't understand Resa Aslan's (spelling?) ending comment.. It seemed to me that he first made a point about how Israel was different from Palestine in that the extremist views are held by the elected leaders, but then right after conceded that the elected Hamas leaders held just such views. Then he went on to say that the Israeli position was one which in reality precluded the possibility of a two-state solution, and that "if you are not willing to accept the two-state solution, you are not part the argument". But only minutes earlier he had himself stated that he had not believed in a two-state solution for some nine months...
I guess I'm not understanding him correctly.. On the other hand, the reactions from the other panelists seem to convey a similar interpretation of him on their part.. Could someone clarify?
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web coaster
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Posted: 08.02.10, 07:41 AM
The pressure for democracy that Aslan proposes is likely to return purely temporary results. And the idea that the US could be continuously applying pressure on despotic regimes is impractical.

I think his starting premise is completely wrong: "only the US can bring democracy". Democracy can never be imposed by an outside force.

In Defeating Political Islam: The New Cold War, Moorthy S. Muthuswamy talks about the errors of this approach. The ballot box is the wrong starting point -- you'll just elect anti-democratic movements like the Muslim brotherhood. It takes some time to develop a civil society that has a real interest in democracy. One of motivators of this result is a wealthier, more educated society, with that wealth distributed more widely.

For significant longterm results the US should be applying pressure to increase the education of the population and reduce the influence of madrasas, promoting an education where people are taught to think, not just repeat the Quran.

One specific the US could target is getting more religious pluralism in the Middle East. Pressure countries receiving aid to eliminate apostate penalties.

Instead of trying to force democracy -- which can never work -- we should work to remove the impediments to democracy.
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