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Debate: The Internet and Democracy

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theknopfknows Avatar
theknopfknows
Posted: 06.28.10, 07:39 PM
Great conversation Freedom, Free Domain, No concept of Free thinking, Internet is more Marketing, Money makes the internet go round, A TRANSITION PHASE, biology interfacing technology! Morality is neglected, more porno, child abuse, and extreme influence through technology. Ignorance is to ignore yourself or others, The Ancient Cyclop, one eye that can only see itself. The ability to express yourself to the rest of the World, is very exciting to a growing consciousness. Global consciousness the collective conscious on the move!. Information doubling itself so quickly that personal participation becomes automatic and so the collective unconsciousness surfaces, looks goofy, but so are dreams. Humanity`s need for attention and then expresses anything! Manifestations are far more rapid on the NET, like A Fishing Net to get caught in, OR a circus net to break your fall, like Albert E., said the past, present and future all happens at once, on the net this is true! Have Fun with this Mystery Gift, from the collective consciousness. It does not, will not , could not, the internet is no threat but fantasy, hang Loose, there is power in flexibility. Freedom of INFO, is freedom of thinking out loud, a, in your face relationship, face to face, naked truth! Let freedom Reign! Civility is education, as in language. Teach your children well! What can we be, that our children can see! Its all reality, so be free to get real. ... RUMI..there is a place beyond right and wrong, beyond competition, I will meet you their. Or HEY HEY You, you, get off of my cloud! Freedom for the net. The Aquisition of Knowledge holds the responsibility to Share, Share Freely!
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Anders Berg
Posted: 06.07.10, 09:49 AM
Such a familiar motif in debates: It's either for or against on some abstract level. E.g. "the great thing about the internet is anonymity" versus "anonymity is the biggest problem on the internet". Why, I should think that anonymity is great for some things and very bad for others, whether on or off the internet.
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Lary9
Posted: 06.07.10, 12:21 AM
Bgv
I blog at my own site and comment pretty much all over the internet using 'Lary9' which I've had for 15 years---but my blog name is quickly and easily traceable back to a profile source which identifies me quite unanonymously. My experience has been that when I've established my comment bona fides at another site or blog, this staus as a regular,(along with my real name profile & info)tends to insure civil discourse both with myself and others.
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triforcelink
Posted: 06.06.10, 12:40 PM
anonymity is not the problem, its the people. If you put up walls (make rules/laws) people will find ways around them, encourage people to do the right thing, not force them.
Enric Avatar
Enric
Posted: 06.05.10, 12:14 PM
Christopher "moot" Poole: The case for anonymity online: http://www.ted.com/talks/christopher...ty_online.html
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DeepDarkGreen
Posted: 06.05.10, 11:21 AM
Oh no...... They're figuring it out... Anonymous is going to return. Now that this is on the internet, you guys just opened a can of worms. Like worms from a Lovecraft novel. Haha, gods help us all if the script kiddies have grown up.
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seespikerun
Posted: 06.05.10, 10:22 AM
I think they both missed a huge part of the issue, which is the something ive coined as the " digital bystandard effect" and that is the idea that there are so many people on the internet that even with name and identity profiles, people behave much differently than in real life. That is to say, on the internet soon we will be one out of 6 billion voices and even if you are a real person who is not anonymous what are the chances you will ever come into contact with anyone you blog with? I think this effect is quite clear on video games, where teenagers to males in their 30s have tags which are extremely personal and carry a lot of value in the idea of linking a real person to a profile. However these progamers say the most juvinile and ridiculously fowl things in the world when playing games online or xbox live. this same phenominom it also well documented in porn chatrooms and chat roulette. you may not be linked to a profile but your face and name are there for the world to see, and people still behave in ways, they would never dream of acting in day to day life.
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Menso el Rey
Posted: 06.05.10, 08:48 AM
I wonder if, ironically, people will all interpret and reject these arguments as they wish, depending on their ideology. At the risk of proving myself right, I think that those who put themselves into silos on the internet would have done that without the internet. After all, they always did before.
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