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What to Do About Iran's Nuclear Program?

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MTGRAY
Posted: 11.18.10, 03:11 PM
Very clear Carpe Noctem. In the history of the israel which has been alter by zionisms,this being under Hershels clause that the jews were blue blood and became a decay human,thus his concept was to change the pattern of moses. On the other hand when yaweh gave the power to the benjamites 50.000 strong they thought they wipe out the snakes of the poisons the civilizations of the times would be gone forever. Well it has return time and time again. Thinkers of history wrote that the end of empires were alway under the rule of jewish tyrants before the time of mose. who could care of the past ideas when the nuke will take out millions in seconds. ¨
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MTGRAY
Posted: 11.18.10, 02:39 PM
When edward G Teller sold his nuclear programs to Israel via US nobody but intelligent students caught his act. Now why would israel lobbies via US congress would provoke the level of balance that would checkmate the motion to nuclear expansion,obvious at this moment sabers are rattling to end this mask of the double standard that has murder millions upon millions under the fascist game that israel along with their cousins the germans want full empirical power DUH!.
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funwithphobias
Posted: 07.11.10, 01:09 PM
Those are all utterly fallacious attacks on Iran's possession of nuclear weapons. The United States, another "democratic" country, has committed far more international atrocities than Iran, yet insists it remain the judge, jury, and executor in all things nuclear despite the fact its the only nation ever to use the weapon ( on civilian targets, twice)!
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theknopfknows
Posted: 06.24.10, 06:55 PM
Again a Supreme Leader with a NUKE, is unacceptable. The UN sanctions did pass and Russia and China reluctantly agreed with, USA. Iran denies Holocaust, Turkey denies Armenian Genocide! How much more can the Jewish State Wait, and who to wait for! Past history tells the Jew that, the World cared little and never came to the rescue in TIME! All their arguments are weak and somewhat useless because they can`t put themselves in the Israeli shoes. Israel will attack with or without UN and EU or USA, Yes let`s get real when you feel your extinction, you will do anything, "Never Again" Only one nuke wipe out Half the Jews in the world, after 5770 years of History, and now only 14 million Jews world-wide, 7 million in Israel. "The King must die, so the people can live", NO NUKES FOR THE SUPREME , Leader! Thanks!
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Carpe Noctem
Posted: 05.12.10, 12:04 AM
I can not believe how dense some of these people are! Not to attack the person instead of the argument, but minus the woman, who tries to be a semi voice of reason is shot down in no time. The reagan guy, omg, he is the classic cold war mindset "intellectual" who has gotten us into the kind of quagmire we are in today in the middle east. They make all kinds of assumptions such as that Iran is evil and therefore must be contained. Look, here are what people who know more about the situation than me generally agree on. 1) Iran is already the new superpower of the middle east, we inadvertently created this situation by removing the people opposing them on both of their borders.(Taliban, Sunni power in Iraq) 2) Sanctions are an act of war. The problem is that we think of Iran as generally week militarily, but they don't even mention some key strategic issues. Former CIA guy Rober Baer is one of the many who argues that if we or Israel ever take action that Iran doesnt not like, they could single handedly take out multiple sources of oil, which they have lined the straight of hormuz with silkworm missles with, also taking control of the straight of hormuz. This alone would send oil to 200+ per barrel, and could very well all by itself send our already frail economy into a tailspin. Also, the Iranians are often the ones that are helping control violence in Iraq via their influence on the Shia. Also, they assume that regime changes is possible or would change their view on nukes. It would not. Look, Iran has evolved from the sponsor of terror they were in the 70's, using lebanon as a learning tool, on how to use proxies to make long term strategic advances in the region. They are now a strategic calculating entity, and that is something that can be compromised with. Also, Iran has already quashed the "green revolution" to the point that no matter how much these reaganites wish for it, it will not happen. If it did, the people would still seek nukes because the key to the whole thing is that Iran just wants to use nukes to get attention and "saber rattle" in order to get power. They have been 5 years away from a nuke for over 20 years. On top of that, from a purely objective standpoint, the NPT and the other treaties, are being unfairly applied to Iran. Can you think of the other countries that didn't follow it? We are selectively trying to apply these rules that almost everyone else has ignored. Also, all these people seem to assume that Iran possessing nukes is absolutely not tolerable to the US. This shows, as former CIA guy Micheal Scheuer says, the ingrained mindset that somehow Israels security = US security. Israel is the one who more than likely cannot tolerate nuclear Iran. Eventually, we will have to ask ourselves, is this really in the nation security interests of the USA? If anything, Iran is probably one of our only chances for containing the growing Islamic revolution (From a catholic style hierarchy, to a "every man his own Imam") Who am I? I am just a USMC Combat Vet who has been on a quest since I got out to understand as many intricacies of the middle east as possible, how can these people be so ignorant. Again, these are the people who got us where we are today, and should they succeed in their call for war with Iran, that blood will be on their hands.
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king aretus
Posted: 05.10.10, 10:02 AM
the guy hosting the debate looks like that guy off cheers
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