The Great Issues Forum: Immigration and Islam

Whole conversation missed out that you can not have democracy if women do not have equal rights. If a King, Emir or Supreme being, be the head of State then no Democracy like Iran. Elections to give the illusion of democracy, elections in ALL arab states are RIGGED. Hamas won the election by holding a gun and holding back food for votes. Democracy is a mask for approval, no women rights no democracy, when 50 per cent of the population women have no rights, the men become slaves to tyranny. Communist China picked their own Pope installed by the Communist state. None of the real issues are addressed.

Useless comment Jews did not start by a few rich men, 5771 years of Hebrew-Jewish History does not include your comment and thank God for that. Remember the fool.

I thought He was describing Islam, Jewish History 5770 years, is much more complex than 1400 years ofr ignorance.

Milk and cookies debate, forgot, English Defense League is growing. EDL demonstrations against Muslims are very popular. Why does Islam have problems in England, France, Sweden, Holland, Belgium, Switzerland, Norway, ALSO in Australia, Philipines, even China has Muslim/Islam problems, WHY IS THIS Africa major Islam problems, ALL OVER THE WORLD ISLAM IS A PROBLEM! not just Middle East.

ABMuslim...would you like then to quote for us some other "idiots" you subscribe to and their wonderful (I am sure it is nothing BUT wonderful) view on Muslims/Islam?..."The religion of peace" must be way up there on your list of your favourite quotes you ascribe to your set of beliefs....

Quote: Originally Posted by jjenkins It doesn't matter what other religions you welcome into the U.S., if Islam is allowed to flourish in the U.S. it will be the end to the nation. Islam is a disease based on Arab tribal traditions, and the rambling lies of a psychotic desert wanderer. I agree. Muslims are basically hypocrites and shameless. They only preach tolerance but never practice it. Non-Muslims are treated worse than 2nd class citizens in Muslim countries and we have Muslims in this forum who preach about how great Islam is. They enjoy complete freedom of religion in the West and the USA, and yet accuse the West and the USA of being anti-Islamic! This is disgusting hypocrisy. Muslims have not created a single Muslim country where there is freedom of religion and they are preaching about how great Islam is.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ascertain_The_Truth No, you are incorrect. Al-Islam is a way of Life. It's a complete way of life that invite us to Wholeness and Completeness thereby obtaining Peace. Whenever the life is fragmented leaving out important essentials that makes for a whole life there will be no peace. All of the important aspects of human life developed and were born out of the spiritual and social expressions from the soul and it found its first expression in the family life. Al-Islam don't believe in separating man's spiritual life from his rational life, or separation the material interest from the spiritual aspirations. Please show us only ONE Muslim country in the world, where Islam has brought peace and progress, where men and women are equal where Muslims and non-Muslim live in harmony. Where spiritual and social expression is part of family, business and social life. Name of ONLY ONE (not 2 or three, just ONE) Muslim country where business is done ethically, where there is no crime, there is no prostitution. Put your Islamic house is order before you preach your benign non-sense.

It doesn't matter what other religions you welcome into the U.S., if Islam is allowed to flourish in the U.S. it will be the end to the nation. Islam is a disease based on Arab tribal traditions, and the rambling lies of a psychotic desert wanderer.

Quote: Originally Posted by LucyDaily So exactly how many thousands of years are we supposed to wait for this "PEACE"? How many millions must die before this wholeness is achieved? If something doesn't work after a year or two, it is a failure, if it hasn't worked after 1000 years it is an EPIC Failure! Religion was invented to explain the natural world to people who's brains were not yet developed enough to understand the rising of the tides, or the setting of the sun. It was not done in malice, it was done in ignorance. When the Jews invented their religion it was done out of malice. It was a plot concocted by a group of roughly 80 rich old men, over the course of 26 years to convince enough people build an army to slaughter, rape, pillage and enslave their neighbors. They did not have enough people in their own country to build a large enough army to destroy the Canaanites, they needed help, the countries around them had no motivation to help them, so they invented a single god to rally behind. Pagans had too many gods, and no one god held enough influence to rally a large enough army behind. Embolden by their success in whipping up a religious frenzy to defeat their enemies, they used their religion to control other groups, mainly women. But the originators of the hoax held too much power and they didn't want to share with the rest of the tribe. They couldn't claim any royal bloodline but they wanted to keep all the power and money in their own families, so they made all kinds of rules about who could be counted as a real Jew. The poor Jews knew that they did not stand a chance of marrying into these families and getting any of that mother's bloodline that would allow them in on the spoils, so they revolted and invented a "savior" for the poor. There were LOTS of poor, so they made for a HUGE army and overwhelmed the Jews with their sheer numbers. It was gang mentality at its most dangerous. The Romans at first thought to squash the filthy stinking rabble by enacting laws to keep the smelly thugs out of the cities on market day, so the Christians added the cleanliness clause to their religion and added pagan holidays to ingratiate themselves with the Romans. After awhile the Romans decided that they needed more bodies to catch arrows so they enlisted the hordes of Christians in their conquest for world domination by telling them it was a "holy" war. That was their downfall, they thought they could control the mass of ignorant unwashed savages, but they were overwhelmed by the sheer number of them. The rest is history as they say, anyone with enough charisma can now add their own spin to the religion that the Jews started and amass great wealth and power. It is the ultimate Ponzi scheme, you only need 1 incredibly shrewd and calculating, ruthless, charismatic greedy man to lure in a bunch of incredibly stupid greedy poor people and you have a religion with all its protections and plunder to be had. And that is the truth about religion! My friend, It was not that simple how Judaism developed. It eveolved over many centuries. See the History of religion by Karen Armstrong.

Quote: Originally Posted by polkadot “Muslims must kill non-believers wherever they are unless they convert to Islam.” - Ali Gom’a (grand mufti of Egypt, the highest Muslim religious authority in the world, Al Ahram, April 7, 2008) source: http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/8066 “Muslims who share the same goals as Osama bin Laden but are pursuing them through non-violent means are celebrated by gullible Westerners as moderates.” - Robert Spencer "It is time to put an end to the charade of “moderate Islam.” There is no such thing as moderate Muslim. Muslims are either jihadists or dormant jihadists – moderate, they are not." - Ali Sina "The real intentions of Euroislam must be concealed from the general public." - Tariq Ramadan Sure, quote the idiots that supports your bias and prejudice. What else is new?