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Free Press and Free Speech in Iran

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browser111
Posted: 06.19.10, 08:52 AM
The Green Movement in Iran apparently, like these speakers, doesn't want to get rid of Islam, or weaken Islam through secularization. It is hard to see - as much as these demonstrators claim to want democracy - how democracy can occur on the foundations of Islam. I've read commentators who think that this "democracy movement" is for the most part merely used by the elite to re-jockey for power. Maybe we take it much too seriously. The speaker's attempt to see it in the paradigm of the American civil rights movement I do not find credible. Islamic societies because they produce a society of "slaves of Allah" are not inventive. They can use cell phones or the internet but they cannot create or build these devices themselves. Like nuclear devices they need to import them. They are parasitic. They need us more than we need them. If America facilitates internet connections as suggested it might encourage more "democratic" unrest in Iran. It probably will also encourage an outflow of Islamic propaganda that will affect more vulnerable members of our Western societies. There are always vulnerable people who seek the security of cults and Islam is a large and successful cult. Without questioning Islam and secularizing Islam this "democratic" movement is going nowhere. We would probably be better dealing with Iran and the rest of the Islamic world as we did with communism, using containment. Reduce immigration significantly, don't give them technology, barrage them with democratic ideas and especially ideas that question Islam, and let Islamic states collapse under their own weaknesses and contradictions.
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theknopfknows
Posted: 06.13.10, 09:18 AM
Very informative thank you www.foratv.org ! my Favourite! I don`t agree with the comparison of Americas Black Civil rights movement and the Iranian green movement that has failed horribly. You can`t tell one Iranian from another, until they voice their opinion. Civil rights in America was blantant and obvious very black and white, not so in Iran. In USA, separate public facilities, separate hotels, nightclubs, sports, bathrooms,super mkts, and EDUCATION, not so in Iran, only the treatment of women might be a closer comparison, Women treated as Slaves. Originally all TV was white. Martin Luther King was not a Supreme leader, only King by name alone, not like Iran. the river that the Professor compares this to, this river is contaminated by false distorted history, illusions no substance, vast population under 40 years old; therefore The OLD suppress the Young and contaminates an entire generation with violence. As long as the past is jammed into the future the present is abused destroyed, on the road to Paradise Allah Akbar. The KING-Supreme Leader, must die so the people can live! Power to the people!
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ppwest
Posted: 06.11.10, 11:47 PM
I ask from Mr. Bahari whether you are sure Iranian know what they want from green movement,and also I like his statement about Iranian identity that is not the same is persian identity.
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