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Debate: Education and the Economy

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Mr.Wolf Avatar
Mr.Wolf
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Posted: 03.24.10, 09:13 PM
Agreed.

Another point. There was argument on the pro side about staying competitive in the global education market. Fair enough in its own right. But the greatest education in the world given to anyone who can't produce something of value isn't going to make one iota of difference in "staying competitive" globally. In regards to this point, isn't alot of Americas current financial crisis more to do with the fact that it moved from being a nation that produces, to a nation that consumes? Electronics, vehicles, clothing, cutlery, cookwares, and on and on. All of these things produced outside of the country. All of these things that people "need" for survival that they do not produce for themselves. How is a nation of degrees and doctorates better off if they lack the ability to produce their own goods? How can you remain strong and independent when you rely on others? What is there to offer in return?

On a more personal ranty note. I'm sick of how the word "fair" is used. I'm tired of hearing people say "it isn't fair.". You're wrong. It is fair. A lion does not give some of it's gazelle to a weaker lion. Competition is fair. If you don't agree, or think it's a good thing, maybe go talk to Darwin.
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nyc
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Posted: 03.24.10, 08:49 PM
@thespiff: So true
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thespiff
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Posted: 03.24.10, 06:12 PM
This was a really great debate. But I think the two sides talked past each other a lot of the time because they never really got down to the meat and potatoes of what the purpose of college is.

The pro-investment side kept arguing that people who drop out of college or don't get in to begin with need money coupled with special attention to bring them up to the pace of college. I really take issue with that. I do not believe college is the place to teach people how to learn. By the time you reach college, you ought to already possess the tools to learn successfully.

If you do not have these skills, you should not be in college. If not enough people have those skills, then this is a failure of the primary and secondary education systems. No college administrator is complaining that there are so many really smart kids that they must turn them away. Nobody who has attended college in the last decade would argue that even the majority of college students are the best and brightest of society. So there is no shortage of opportunity for teenagers who can prove their intelligence via SATs, essays, recommendation letters, and interviews.

The focus should lie on teaching students in primary/secondary the skills required for them to prove themselves in that way. When the day comes that A-average high school students with strong SAT scores can't get into college, then we can talk about helping them financially. But spending enormous amounts of money to bring unqualified young people into he college system to learn basic skills they should already know is not the answer.
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