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Reaching the Audience in a Fragmented Media Landscape

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BlueBerry Pick'n Avatar
BlueBerry Pick'n
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Posted: 02.24.10, 06:45 AM
oh no! the corporations that own CNN might not be heard...
...but what about all those oil rigs & fighter craft that need to be sold?
*shriek* the horrors of free speech & mob education...

why, all those people who should learn to shut up & do as they're told...
...might get the idea that democracy includes knowing more than what you're told by Money & Power.
how dare people listen to anyone but the trusted mouthpieces of Corporate Greed & Oligarchy!
They've got some stealing & bombing to get handled!

so shut up & do as your told for American Interests: that's American democracy, that's The American Way!
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Posted: 02.21.10, 07:27 AM
...And utterly SAD fact is Jon Stewart tends to cover daily news better than most Media Sources!
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nikonwilly
Posts: 31
Posted: 02.20.10, 02:37 PM
The average audience is ignorant...popular television shows prove this out!
This is a very interesting discussion with some nice theories. I find it ironic they touted this program with headlines of Jon Stewart and as it happens he's only mentioned at the very end. This is a standard ploy with most advertising , called lie,lie,lie with a smidgen of truth ! The Internet with this type of programing is going to be our savior!
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Nicolas Oliva
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Posted: 02.20.10, 08:14 AM
I just listened 10 minutes, didn't read their CV, but it's quite funny how they disrespect their custommers ("people that feel they know more watching tv news" *laughts*, this is a quote), and also the industry point of view.

Incredibly uninteresting anyway.
rocketdog Avatar
rocketdog
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Posted: 02.19.10, 05:25 PM
Let's be clear, since the guy asking the question muddles his point: Ira Glass' criticism is not that people should be watching CNN instead of Jon Stewart; it's that watching "The Daily Show" is not the same as exposing yourself to real, vital journalism, like the type of in-depth investigative reporting you can still find on NPR and similar outlets.

(Frankly, CNN is a bad example, because as far as I can tell it's very rare to find in-depth reporting on any of the three major cable news channels. But then, Glass wasn't talking about cable news as a source of good journalism; he was talking about NPR.)

So the question isn't about who to trust more, Stewart or the mainstream media, it's about what it means for our society when people have such a disdain for that mainstream media that they can interpret a 25-minute, four-times-a-week satire of the news as more informative than watching / reading / listening to actual, non-satirical news reporting. Is that good for democracy? I don't know.

Personally, I tend to side with Rachel Mersey's comment that "The Daily Show" is great as a supplement to the news, but it really shouldn't be your primary source of information. Of course, this is also an opinion shared by Jon Stewart himself, who's said this dozens of times on his own show.

You could go further and say the same thing about Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Keith Olbermann, whoever -- if you enjoy watching this stuff, fine, but please realize that you're watching political entertainment, not actual news. If you're reading this, though, it means you're a fan of FORA.tv, so you're probably smart enough to know that already.
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winstonfiore
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Posted: 02.19.10, 04:11 PM
It's funny how this forum is about how to get people otherwise uninterested in "the story" to click on it online. This hour-long conversation was advertised on fora.tv's homepage as a piece about whether or not John Stewart is good for democracy. That's the whole reason I clicked! Turns out John Stewart was only discussed in the last couple minutes, but I never would've clicked had Stewart's face not been plastered all over the homepage. On the other hand, I'm glad I did sit through it all, as it was an informative talk. So way to detect my motivations, fora.tv!
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jward323
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Posted: 02.19.10, 01:07 PM
Jon Stewart is a comedy show. It is not a news show.
Calorus Avatar
Calorus
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Posted: 02.19.10, 04:53 AM
"African-Americans, Asians, Women from all over the country..."

How utterly ineffectual - people's fundamental interest have nothing to their racial or sexual identities. A Black managing director and a White managing director and an Asian or female managing director all have the same economic interests. CNN et al. offer the semblance of diversity. There would be more diversity in a sample of a White banking customer, Bank Teller and an CEO than three people of different races but the same economic class.

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Calorus
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Posted: 02.19.10, 04:29 AM
Jon Stewart does not help what American Democracy is aiming for: Stewart uses the balancing of 'omitted information' to help people to fill in the the blanks and make their on minds up based on the full picture. He does it in a rather comic tone, to be sure, but there is never any aversion to honesty or the full story.

CNN, Fox and NBC seem to be extremely willing to toe-the-line for the governments, big business or political factions and people diluting that influence with The Jon Stewart Show which focuses on specific actual events, or The Onion which presents a caricature of real events is not particularly helpful for the spoon-feeding of a nation.
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