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Richard Harries: Does God Believe in Human Rights?

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LucyDaily Avatar
LucyDaily
Posts: 10
Posted: 06.02.10, 09:36 AM
Why have millions and millions of man hours have been wasted on this work of fiction? I know a lot of young people spend thousands of hours studying Star Wars or Star Trek, even down to concocting alien languages and wardrobes. Why aren't these young people giving tax free status? Why can't they take their driver's license in Klingon? Why is one work of fiction any more valuable than any other?

Babies know right from wrong at birth, they share their food, they will reach out to be held by people of any race, they cry out of sympathy for others who are crying. It is only after they have been left to cry alone or been left hungry or in pain, or have seen their parents reactions of strangers, do they change their attitudes.

Human rights are completely trounced upon by religion, and should never be allowed in any government because it can not be argued against or for in any real terms, it is imaginary, just as imaginary as Star Wars.
mjfora Avatar
mjfora
Posts: 3
Posted: 03.17.10, 10:59 PM
"nothin we do can influence nature and human rights is natural, it is a consequence of civil societies and culture." -- moralwar

- We are the influence on society and consequently we claim society is civil. So there is something that can be done about human rights. Human Rights is defined as "fundamentally attributed to all individuals". in addition, nature, the term is derived from another term "to be born". The "right" to be born is said to be granted by a creative controlling force in the universe. This is where the inane, "life is a gift" comes from. Some who think this way vote against homosexuals getting married and some, years ago in this country, held slaves.
It is, now, uncivil to hold slaves or to oppress another "natural" person via slavery in america. But it is still done today elsewhere. Just as the spot of dirt one stands on turns again to face the sun so does this supposed lack of influence on the "natural" order of things go on and on.
Natural does not mean protected. "Human Rights" is a political term created and controlled by humans. Half of the Periodic Table is man-made.
We have great influence on all of these things.
Todor Avatar
Todor
Posts: 1
Posted: 03.04.10, 03:29 PM
Professor is very knowledgeable. I have learned a lot for today....
Sokratez Avatar
Sokratez
Posts: 15
Posted: 03.04.10, 10:40 AM
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But do human rights have a sound theological basis? Sometimes it seems religions give the impression that God is indifferent to them. This challenge needs to be faced in order to find a firm foundation for rights.
Religion can never be a firm foundation for anything imho, but I guess that depends on how you define "firm foundation"...

2000 years ago the discussion was probably like this: "But does slavery have a sound theological basis? Sometimes it seems religions give the impression that God is indifferent to slaves. This challenge needs to be faced in order to find a firm foundation for slavery."

Why does religion have to be the foundation? We already have a firm foundation, it's called democracy. remember, you gave a lecture about it a while ago... Also, the bible never mentions "human rights", just the opposite: "original sin". God is very clear on that, and not at all indifferent...

But just out of curiousity, how do "original sin" and "human rights" NOT work in totally opposite ways?!?

Yeah, you've got all the rights in the world, but after you die you'll burn in hell forevarharharhar...
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Invictus_88
Posts: 92
Posted: 02.23.10, 07:53 AM
What on earth do you mean by 'nature' in this sense?
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moralwar@hotmail.com
Posts: 5
Posted: 02.22.10, 08:51 PM
We may speak of morality and human rights till doom's day, the fact remainds that we are instruments of nature - she uses us for her purpose. Nature brings us here uses us and destroys at will. nothin we do can influence nature and human rights is natural, it is a consequence of civil societies and culture. it preceeded the bible and even the formal knowledge of God. Wherever men congregate there will be laws and wherever laws exist, there will be concern for individual or corporate human rights. religion may have evolved because of human rights.
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