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COP15: Gore and Støre Report on Arctic's Melting Ice

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changshageorge Avatar
changshageorge
Posts: 2
Posted: 12.17.09, 08:52 AM
When are you going to get it right, John and Jane Q...climate Change,is a definite reality, but the CO2 contribution by industrialized societies,is a debatable issue; take a hard look at the data and charts. Make a critical interpreation of what they demonstrate, without others telling you what they think they mean! However, that's not saying there isn't a problem, with CO2 levels worldwide that are contributing toward harmful and unhealthly levels, particularly within urban areas. If nothing is done, it certainly may not melt the polar ice cap, but could shorten the lives of your grand children and the elderly! International concerted action, is a necessary requirement to resolve this problem for future generations.
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RMarkey
Posts: 10
Posted: 12.17.09, 07:48 AM
1. Gore did NOT say the ice caps will disappear--he said that Dr Maslowsky feels that there is a 75% chance that within the next 7 years the North Polar icecap will be Ice Free.

2. EVEN IF the data for Global Warming is questionable, ie, does not paint a simple Black and White picture that so many would like (like: Smoking causes cancer), the corollary FACTS are unambiguous:
A. Air pollution is NOT conducive to health.
B. Water pollution kills life in the foodchain.
C. Humans are a dependent life form in the web of life on earth.
D. Pesticide and "antibiotic" resistance is growing in species.
E. Arctic habitats changing more radically today than in ANYONE's memory.

These facts are to be ignored at OUR peril. Discharge of air and water pollutants CANNOT continue unabated, anymore than printing money is the cure to inflation.

If you cannot see this, then please leave.
Richard Guy Avatar
Richard Guy
Posts: 21
Posted: 12.17.09, 07:44 AM
All this Climate change hype is confusing us further. We first of all have to get rid of the Isostatic Rebound theory. That is what is causing all the sea level rise confusion. The Isostatic Rebound Theory is wrong and has mislead us all for over two hundred years. The land is not rising from the sea the sea is receding from the land. So no matter how much of the ice caps melt the sea levels will only continue to decline and fall in level. They will not rise. The other half truth is that the polar ice will melt. There will always be polar ice. The Ice and Glaciers that are melting will make absolutely no difference to sea levels. The rate of sea level decline is much greater than any decline that is forcasted by ice melt. In recent times the sea level worldwide had dropped over 2000 millimeters or over 6 feet. This means that the sea will have to rise 1000 years before it can catch up with the todays, forcast of sea level rise. This is just to show how rediculous the whole forcast is. Isostatic Rebound has to go,. When we realize the truth we will see that sea level rise is a myth. We will also learn that sea level is a myth. We dont know sea level so we cant forcast a rise or fall level. We just have to know that the sea level is falling at a greater rate than Ice melt can ever replenish. So wake up Geologists and get rid of Isostatic Rebound and Sea level datum and you will be very happy. It will solve many of the enigmas that now puzzle you. Get rid of Isostatic Rebound and set yourself free. Richard Guy
www.widemargin2000.com. email: richard_guy72@yahoo.com. Tel; 347-275-5616 for speaking engagements.
Richard Guy Avatar
Richard Guy
Posts: 21
Posted: 12.17.09, 07:26 AM
The evidence is conflicting and confusing. It is comprised of a series of half truths. Gore says that in five years the ice caps will disappear in summer. It is conjecture based on fallacy. Other, so called, authorities speak of sea level rise of 2 millimeters per year: others say that we will have a meter rise in sea level before the end of the century. A millimenter of sea level rise is a rediculous. Sea level is not measured in millimeters thats an impossibility. Sea level is measured in feet e.g. the difference between the Caribbean and the Pacific Ocean is 22 feet. I challenge any expert to interpolate 2 millimeners of sea rise in either the Caribbean and or the Pacific. The Tsunami in southeast Asia on boxing day 2004 dropped sea level on foot. that is 308 millimeters. The earthquake recently off the coast of Indonesia dropped the sea level a further 2 feet. that is 616 millimeters. The earthquake of the coast of Mexico as recent as two m onths ago dropped the sea level eight inches. that is
200 Millimeters. In Alaska earth tremors have dropped the ocean level three feet in recent times and the sea is still receding without any signs of abating. So if we equate 3 feet to millimenters and add up all the sea fall anomalities I have listed we have a sea level drop worldwide of 80 inches which is 6 feet 8 inches. If we equate this to millimeters we have 2040 millimeters of sea level decline in recent times. Are you going to tell me that at that rate of earthquake activity and falling sea levels we will have sea level rise due to ice melt. I think the possibility is not only remote it is rediculous. Think for yourselves and see the forest from the trees. We are being hoodwinked because we are hung up on the falsity that sea level is a constant. It is not. Sea level is receding faster than any precidted sea melt. Darwin was wrong the land is not rising from the sea the sea is receding from the land. We have to overturn the Isostatic Rebound Theory and let the light of science shine again.,QED Richard Guy: www.widemargin2000.com. tel; 347-275-5616 email;
richard_guy72@yahoo.com
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AntiOligarch
Posts: 5
Posted: 12.17.09, 05:45 AM
We don't produce CO2.
CO2 is part of the atmosphere.
We breath it in and exhale the amount of it that we don't need.
CO (carbon monoxide) can be poisonous if inhaled in large amounts CO2 isn't a poison.
LindaI Avatar
LindaI
Posts: 2
Posted: 12.17.09, 04:33 AM
I continue to be amazed at the "sheeple" willing to believe in the climate change junk science thieves.

Please study the following website before jumping on the anthropogenic climate change bandwagon?

http://www.ecoworld.com/global-warmi...rctic-ice.html

“The sea ice around the (Antarctic)continent is far above average (ref. UIUC). Also, note the colder than average sea surface temperatures around Antarctic (ref. NOAA). If the media is going to discuss the Wilkens Ice Shelf, they should also discuss this other data. The expansion of the sea ice coverage implies a cooling.”

More than 30,000 scientists worldwide have dissented "anthropogenic" climate change.

The Copenhagen Conference is no more than than an attempt at a "world political governance" complete with blame and taxes. Pay attention, sheeple.
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ProxyAmenRa
Posts: 7
Posted: 12.17.09, 04:30 AM
When reviewing the science it would seem the hypothesis of human caused global warming falls apart. Over the last 30 years there has been no statistically significant change in size of the arctic ice cap.

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/

Man made global warming is the greatest hoax in human history.
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wolfheinl
Posts: 16
Posted: 12.15.09, 05:07 PM
Difficult to hear but its a message that must be heard. Everyone must act and pressure those in power and in industry to enact policies and develop technology to allow CO2 levels to be reduced to 350 parts per million. Thank you for acting. Call your friends and elected officials!
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