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Thomas Sowell: Intellectuals and Society

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GnosisMan Avatar
GnosisMan
Posts: 25
Posted: 01.07.10, 04:32 PM
Imaleviathan,

Thanks for your thoughts. I took your advice and listened to his entire talk. While it is true that intellectuals are people whose “work begins and ends with ideas.” which includes academics from the humanities, social sciences, policy makers, and even journalists, to compare them with physicians or engineers is a mistake. The latter deals with tangible objects that can be measured and verified while the former deals with very complex social issues that is often beyond the realm of the most brilliant intellectuals. No doubt, intellectuals indeed pose a serious problem but the underlying problem does not lie solely with intellectuals.
The social construction of reality that we live in is of our making infected by greed, materialism, selfishness, the abuse of power, and no amount of intellectual acumen can address the vices of human nature and Sowell is certainly no exception. For instance, when he said that Chomsky’s ideas and theories in politics is an "absurdity" how can Sowell possibly say this? Why would Sowell dismiss Chomsky’s decades of study as if they are completely devoid of any truth? What makes Sowell the holder of truth? In this respect, when you said that rights become personalized Sowell absurdity comment was just as personalized by refusing to give Chomsky credit.
Sowell is certainly is able too see the many fallacies of intellectuals but he apparently is not able to see the limits of his own intellectual position and even intellect itself. Had Sowell known this, he would have said something akin to this:

“I believe we need to cultivate the kind of knowledge and awareness that would allow us to transcend our inner conflicts, our respective ego, our feeble intellect, and the unconscious primitive emotions that keep us in bondage”

Apparently, Dr. Sowell ought to consider that there is more to human nature than what he or any expert in the field can fathom.
Blaming intellectuals is only one small piece of a very big puzzle.


In reference to word 'right' as being personalized, yes this is true rights become hopelessly subjective especially if you cannot afford health care. But the issue is not the right to have heath care. The real issue here is that our political leaders, the insurance companies, lobbyists, and the pharmaceutical industry stick to their capitalistic guns. All they care about is the almighty dollar and I’m convinced that this has turned into a pathology of greed. As a result, it dehumanizes others. To think of the well being of the American people as the prime directive is as far removed from them as the planets. So in this regard, the right for these industries to make as much money as possible with a disregard of others is -as you said-a deceptive pitfall for fallacies. And this fallacy is killing and bankrupting many people unjustly.
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Imaleviathan
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Posted: 01.07.10, 02:44 PM
I think you should watch the whole interview again and listen closely. As you are getting things twisted. Sowell tries to explain how intellectuals keep providing "solutions" (without any realistic perception to a certain situation). Also at the end of the interview, he concluded with the remark that there is no solution to this "problem". Yes it is easy to criticize others, yet there is a difference between destructive and constructive criticism. In my opinion, this can be considered constructive. As it is true that certain intellectuals go beyond their field, trying to dictate the proletariat with the main thought of intellectual superiority. I would like to conclude on your 'rights' argument. I think you misunderstood him. As the quotation from his book already declared the word 'right' can be personalized. What I mean by that, and Sowell as well, is that your definition of right may differ from mine. Where do you draw the line? For this reason, the word can been perceived as a deceptive pitfall for fallacies.
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William Simmons
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Posted: 01.07.10, 09:07 AM
Great job, Dr. Sowell. We rely on intellectuals to try to solve problems- such as the rising cost and the failure of some to have health insurance. Often these individuals propose ideas that make problems worse- Sowell might be ranked by some as an intellectual himself, but he proposes ideas that we can understand and evaluate. He provides us with the facts we need to arrive at our own conclusions- important in a democracy. Thanks for posting this interesting interview.
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GnosisMan
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Posted: 01.07.10, 07:58 AM
It's so easy to critize intellectuals or anyone else for that matter...it would be great if Sowell would provide solutions instead. In reference to rights, that health care, for instance, should be a right. The question arises, is social security a right? I don't think so. Social security is a need and as long as we all pay into it, we all benefit from it. Health care should be no different.
When Sowell admitted his dumbfounedness regarding the word "rights" it is a clear indication that he is just another intellectual speaking within the field of intellect with his own fallacies. He says that rights is not in the constitution -implying that you have no right to health care. What he fails to realize is that the health care debate is infected by greed and politics which he makes no mention of and he fails miserably in realizing that you can't have genuine health care without the spirit of compassion. What I mean by this is having geniune concern for the well being of others and it makes its presence felt in every aspect of health care. But as long as you have greed and poltical leaders only concerend about themselves, you cannot have true health care. Sowell makes no mention of this and the many forces that undermine heath care. While it is true that health care is not in the constitution, neither is compassion. But if our forefathers were here today, they'd be appaled by our lack of compassion.
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dlauf87
Posts: 7
Posted: 01.06.10, 10:23 PM
5 Stars for Sowell. I can't wait to read this one. His work is always intriguing.
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SwampFoxAnalyst
Posts: 6
Posted: 01.06.10, 07:36 PM
Not all the world is best viewed as economics. This interview just shows whole of the Hoover Institute has become a sham. That is a shame. I do not believe that climate scientists are making up global warming to get research grants. But beliefs are not the issue in science. All Sowell has presented is a plausibility argument that scientists might gain by being alarmist. Now he needs to to an look at their models and find places where this alleged bias has made concrete changes in the data, theories or climate models. Sowell can't because he is not competent in the science he is criticizing. Economists have dogmas and principles, real science has evidence and theories.
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