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GreenBeat 2009: Smart Grid Investment Pros and Cons

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wsoutherland
Posts: 25
Posted: 11.29.09, 05:48 PM
Does anyone else find it interesting that we would trade a President that would scare us with terrorism for one that would scare us with global warming? To compare our two speakers, Vinod Khosla is the voice of reason, calmly explaining reality. Then enter the salesman. The priest preaching to his congregation. Steve Westly would just as soon sell you a car as he would smart grid technology.
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Soylent
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Posted: 11.30.09, 02:17 PM
You know what else Carter did? He was big into oil shale and coal gasification, some of the dirtiest technologies ever invented. Stop greenwashing Carter.

You know what else we learned in the 70's? Nuclear can replace coal, wind and solar simply cannot.

Without natural gas(the scarcest of fossil fuels) a post-carbon grid based on wind and solar requires at least 3 miracles of the same scale as the invention of integrated circuits and internal combustion engines: A miraculous drop in the cost of transmission capacity and transmission management, a miraculous drop in the price of photovoltaics with a simultaneous abandonment of scarce indium used in the transparent electrode, a miraculous drop in energy storage costs.

Without an out-of-the park home-run in all three areas solar will play no part in the post-carbon grid; without an out-of-the park home-run in transmission and storage wind will play no part in the post-carbon grid.
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mszlazak
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Posted: 12.06.09, 09:28 PM
Finally, someone with the good sense and character to speak the truth about the green/renewable hype and nonsense. With or without a smart grid, nuclear is the only viable solution to the CO2 problem. But Vinod did hold out some other things that could put nuclear out of the game by using technology that works with coal and gasoline powered cars that have twice the efficiency.
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poul
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Posted: 12.08.09, 09:43 AM
Nice i liked it,
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