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Uncommon Knowledge: Robert Baer and Victor Davis Hanson

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Sblast Avatar
Sblast
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Posted: 11.04.09, 01:53 AM
This is bad
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far_spam
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Posted: 11.05.09, 11:39 AM
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Propaganda Propaganda Propaganda
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Look at the facts. Imagine you are Iran. To your East a US WAR in Iraq, to your north a US WAR in Afghanistan, to your right US bombing Pakistan...
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All this talk about religion and democracy but just look at the facts...
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If China invaded Canada and Mexico for regime change. What if the US didnt have Nukes. What would the US think? Are we next? How would the US behave?
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The US would tell China to go and f* itself. The US would also make its damn surest to get something that would protect itself and its neighbors from China.
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Look at the facts, who is threatening who!
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If you think 911 (Inside Job) is justification for all this then you really should be watching cartoons not documentaries on ForaTV...
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Zachary
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Posted: 11.05.09, 02:24 PM
I agree with Sblast. This is a bad situation. However, this is an informative, wide reaching, and brilliant discussion.
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James - Ireland
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Posted: 11.12.09, 06:12 AM
Two tangential topics mentioned in the interview.

1. It is utterly short sighted and simplistic to claim that Russia would be fine with the Iranians developing nukes as that would create problems for the USA. Russia is geographically close to Iran and would have to live with a nuclear Iran for the long term. While the short term discomfort to the US might be agreeable to Moscow, it is vastly outweighed by the longer term strengthened Iran (and the likely development by other regional powers, e.g. Turkey, of nukes). Nor is this a secret. It is the stated Russian position. It reduces the credibility of the commentators to not even address this.

2. The world didn't sit by while the holocaust occurred. There was in fact a major war in the theatre where it took place, i.e. Eastern Europe, which ensured the defeat of the Nazis. It is extremely disrespectful to the millions of people in Eastern Europe who struggled to defeat the Nazis to say that the world just watched them slaughter millions of innocents. It is not as if the Russians could have done much more; they barely survived themselves. The USA was simply incapable of doing much apart from attempting air bombing of the camps; it barely managed to lead a successful invasion of western Europe against 1/4 of the German army.

On the main issue, any Iranian official watching would most likely see the arguments outlined in this interview as a prime reason why they should develop nukes. In the face of such unremitting hostility - and why exactly? How does Iran threaten the West? - it is a logical response to develop a deterrent.
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AntoineBonnin
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Posted: 11.12.09, 01:23 PM
It was the first time I watched an episode of "Uncommon Knowledge", its name is quite appropriate for this interview. The Hoover institute should really update their sources. How can these people be called "experts"? Some of their comments were almost racists or simple fabrications. Robert Baer had the audacity to call Iranian imperialistic; and apparently they have become Sunni Muslims overnight and willing to stop "barbarians to come across their borders". Like the US would stay silent if their neighbors were being attacked. He probably did not mean what he said. If Israel attacks Iran, Iran would try to defend itself! What else are they suppose to do? Also, why are India, Pakistan and Israel allowed to have Nukes (helped by the US)? They didn't even sign on to the NPT unlike Iran.

Iran has not attacked anyone in 700 years, what about the United States? Great Britain? France? etc..

This interview is a farce, and the moderator should have called them on their lies.
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hlvs23
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Posted: 11.28.09, 06:09 PM
The US does have "diplomatic leverage over Israel" in the millions they give in aid. If they wanted peace in the region we could have it.
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Mark Sullivan
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Posted: 01.10.10, 09:58 PM
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