The world's foremost counterinsurgency expert, David Kilcullen and Julian Burnside, a barrister and human rights advocate make for an explosive combination when discussing if the end ever justifies the means.
With gripping battlefield experiences that range from the jungles and highlands of South and Southeast Asia to the mountains of Afghanistan-Pakistan border to the dusty towns of the Middle-East and the horn of Africa, David might change the way you think about war.
Bio
Julian Burnside
Julian Burnside QC, is a barrister, writer and President of Liberty Victoria. He has acted pro bono in many human rights cases and is passionate about the arts. He elaborates the law in relation to art censorship and how it is exercised, including the complexities of "intention," "context," "reasonableness," public attitudes, protecting human rights and freedom of expression.
He is President of Liberty Victoria, Chair of fortyfive downstairs and author of Wordwatching - Fieldnotes from an amateur Philologist and Watching Brief - Reflections on Human Rights, Law and Justice.
David Kilcullen
David Kilcullen is a consultant to the US State Department on counterinsurgency and counterterrorism.
He is the author of numerous publications including The Accidental Guerrilla: Fighting Small Wars in the Midst of a Big One and Twenty-Eight Articles, a how to guide for junior commanders involved in counterinsurgency.
Ho my the Quality of intelligence is in the hidden agenda the initial intention. good enough intelligence begs the question FOR WHAT? AMERICA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY it is a Constitutional Republic-- Masonary
These military boys are very institutionalized thinking outside the box is walking into the unknown which is unknow to the military mind-- no surprises!
The collective military consciousness, is like the religions BLIND FAITH, yes religion and military walk hand in hand like quick sand in Blind faith leaves no room for consciousness, laugh not to cry, greek mask, need a sense of humour to stomach the military mind of no mind. The land of the thoughtless! thanks again see you soon.
Institutionalized militery thinking, like sales create or invent or provok, a scene and the sell them the solution to the problem. Does the end justify the means_ only in the environment of Harmlessness. Military thinking is no thinking at all. Violence ushered in by lies and hidden agendas. The question should and needs to be asked is Does the Initial intention, hidden or otherwise,have anything to do with the final out come. Yes Jack Leggett I beleive dropped the bomb on HIROSHIMA, asked the question .. how did you feel now Jack, at 95 years old he said I never lost a night of sleep, I saved more than I killed.... brain wash all the way to his grave. That is the military. Waste of time and money, I know, I lost mothers family to Hitler Dad Hungarian to Stalin. Does the end justify the means, ONLY TO ROBOTS- A human doing but not a human being. This conversation shows the arrogance of ignorance, mankind, military , self sabotage like trailer trash Corporal Lindys leash, at abu ghrab, great way to represent America, military hires mentally retarded trailer trash to show Americas best, WOW end justifies the means that is the philosophy of Bin Laden. Does the initial intention, oil in the middle east, afghan. and Yemen, setting up future pipe lines, have anything to do with the final outcome, lets be honest. Military objective is not objective thinking and therefore expectations will always contaminate the decision making process. Truth, the tree of life lives only on the truth. Thank You.