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A REALLY Inconvenient Truth: Dan Miller

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KenS
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Posted: 08.26.09, 08:20 AM
A great talk.
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Vasil
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Posted: 08.26.09, 03:04 PM
Absolutely agree. Brilliant lecture! I have particularly enjoyed his explanation of geoengineering, a concept that was previously unclear to me. He speaks a lot about the pros of it, but I wonder if there's any cons of geoengineering not including the fact that it is very expensive.
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pokerandwine
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Posted: 08.26.09, 03:13 PM
Some parts of the lecture are extremely depressing., especially when Dan says that the first thing we should do is to ask for our children for forgiveness as their life would be hell no matter what.
At around 18:50 he brings up an interesting point that now it is time to stop buying Florida’s real estate which would go down in price drastically. Would it apply to the West coast and Bay area? Does it mean that it safer to move to the mid-America in the nearest future?
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DannyAstro
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Posted: 08.26.09, 05:58 PM
As I mentioned in the talk, geo-engineering is like chemotherapy. It has serious side-effects, but the impact of not doing it (possible collapse of civilization) may not be acceptable. Some approaches, such as reforestation, don't have serious downsides. Putting smoke in the upper atmosphere is relatively easy and would work, but it could cause serious disruptions to weather patterns and might do things like impact the ozone layer. It also does not fix the problem of too much CO2, it only hides it for a while.

All coast lines will be effected by ~6 feet (2m) of sea level rise this century. However, Florida is so flat and so many people live within a few miles of the coast, it will be affected more than most other places. A problem of sea level rise that many people overlook is that, once it starts, it doesn't stop. So there isn't a new "safe" place to build on the coast. Each decade (in fits and starts) more and more coastline will be submerged.
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Vasil
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Posted: 08.27.09, 02:08 PM
Thank you very much for responding, Dan.
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chrisclub
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Posted: 08.31.09, 02:38 PM
Dan, Thanks for the talk.

I agree 100% with everything you said. It seems to me the only reason we are not acting immediately is oil executives are brainwashing the gullible to fight AGAINST slowing global warming. Do these oil executives really think they can ammass enough more money that they and their children can survive well in a +6 degree world?

Is there a way to convince these oil executives that they already have enough money, and they need to use some of it to brainwash the gullible into fighting FOR slowing global warming?
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chrisclub
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Posted: 08.31.09, 02:51 PM
If only all of the leaders we elected could comprehend your talk and the data in it.
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Jesper
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Posted: 09.01.09, 12:44 PM
Thanks for a thoroughly enjoyable and informative talk, which considering the facts was appropriately grim in it's outlook.
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bapyou
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Posted: 09.01.09, 11:09 PM
Interesting but terribly produced talk. Awful sound; no microphone for questioners.
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WilliamRobson
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Posted: 09.03.09, 01:13 AM
Why can't this be publically broadcasted on all networks????
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