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The Dark Side: Jane Mayer

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bharat14 Avatar
bharat14
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Posted: 01.01.11, 12:14 PM
Can someone explain how to combat barbarians who think beheading is best taught at the age of 12 or younger? what about all those released detainees who have gone on to rejoin and train even younger boys and girls to become suicide bombers? how are the US/ISAF soldiers meant to identify an enemy on the battlefield? or even in a civilian gathering? have the UN or Human rights people ever tried to teach the geneva convention to the Taliban/AL-Qaeda or LeT? What about the amnesty guys who sacked geeta sehgal for refusing to support the taliban? any action taken against them?
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SerpentWise
Posts: 1
Posted: 10.26.10, 11:17 AM
This lady needed to dig a bit deeper. The torture tactics utilized by our military in the "War on Terror", which is a war of terror, by the way, are based on what is called the KUBARK manual, authored by the CIA under the aegis of MKULTRA.
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nikonwilly
Posts: 31
Posted: 03.29.10, 04:24 AM
She really is naive...Thinking Obama wants change and his reasons for not going after Bush on these torture charges.
Obama has not stopped rendition and gitmo is still open! A sham shame!
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EdSzumowski
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Posted: 01.28.10, 11:03 AM
It's an interesting discussion. Putting purely moral questions about torture (or anything close to torture) aside:

Ms. Mayer appears to be educated but is surprisingly naive. SERE school is not a 'secret program' - thousands of soldiers have been through SERE school, not just CIA operatives and the like.

Perhaps it is a sign of the blinding security we've enjoyed for the last several decades that people are shocked to hear of soldiers trained to resist torture. How else shall we do it? What is the alternative plan for survival? You need to be alive before you can ask morality questions.
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Max C
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Posted: 07.25.09, 12:16 AM
Yes definitely the Obama administration has changed the approach of the US Government to the war on terrorism. The Obama administration has, in fact, given the guiding principles of US Foreign Policy a 180 degree change when compared to the principles that guided the Bush Administration’s approach to Foreign Policy. What worries me is that the Obama’s administration new approach to foreign policy has, in a very short time, suffered three substantial failures: 1) The recent Iranian elections 2) North Korea’s testing of nuclear missiles and 3) The position of the State Department regarding the constitutional succession of power in Honduras. Instead of supporting the Honduran efforts to stop Hugo Chavez’s expansionist strategies, the Obama administration decided to adopt a “hands off” approach, and insist on the return to power of Mr. Zelaya (a strong ally of Mr. Chavez in Central America). The Obama administration’s approach to Foreign Policy is fragile and will not lead to the campaign promise of restoring the US moral authority and leadership throughout the world.
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Rdallas1
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Posted: 07.16.09, 11:55 AM
Great video. I found the first three chapters about torture and the reaction to 9/11 very interesting. Although I am not exactly sure how I feel about torture especially regarding national security threats but I think our government definitely uses it way more then necessary if in fact torture is ever necessary. It doesn't surprise me though that the government has a curriculum for torture. If found an interesting article on SERE:http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/06/29/torture/
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