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A Participation Society with Cheryl Kernot

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obeligz
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Posted: 07.23.09, 05:27 PM
Well said.
Social values are good, and important.. but with 6 billion ppl in the world we have probably 6 billion different social values on Earth.
Animal rights organization are the formal proponents of a monumental movement of people who`s values dictate that people should not use animals, and they gather vast amounts of money to this cause. The consequences of this social movement, and it\s values amount to the oppression of a large number of different minorities in the different societies. This movement has enoyed a small number of moral victories, but in the same time this movement has also oppressed unjustly the rights and interests (also values) of minorities within most modern societies to significant degrees.
In texas turles are forbidden to keep, and in Norway and Iceland frogs illegal to breed. Norways ban on private keeping of reptiles and amphibians has time and again proven to be unjust, ethically undefendable, based in prejudice and built on irrational and unscientific considerations. All this because the doings of alledgedly ethic social animal rights organizations who seek to create and inspire good values in society.
While I like and agree with many of the thoughts promoted in this vid, I offer to you what I percieve as one of the pitfalls, which has greap potential to corrupt sustanability and ethical integrity in our society, and lead to a lot of cumulative and potentially irreversible damage. Again example wrim my empirical sphere.. Since frogs are illegal to keep and breed in private vivaria in Norway, only criminals keep such animals. Given this fact, very little amateur litterature on such animals is published in Norwegian. Also, as a consequence, few people care to educate themselves as formal herpetologists (biologists with specialty in reptiles and amphibians). As a consequence, Norway does not promote to science in herpetology much, and the cumulative knowlege about herpetology in Norway is lacking in many respects judging by European standard, all because politicians have the wrong atitude towards responsible keeping of "exotic" animals, all because they are acting on values of social organizations which in funding and organizational efficiency hopelessly outconquer the Norwegian herpetological society (NHF). The NHF with it`s 100 or so members, is the largest herpetological organization in the kingdom. Reptile owners in norway, being criminals, are fearful of joining the NHF in fear of being confronted by autorities, or animal rights organizations. Reputable people fear to break this unjust prejudicial law in fear of loosing respect in society, and thus the values and doings of social animal rights organizations add to oppression of many different minorities in the Norwegian siciety, adding to prejudice towerds these animals in the general society and yielding cumulative damage in the ethical ans scientific integrity of our laws.
Animal rights organizations are funded by some of the largest social buisnesses on Earth, at the same time they aredirectly connected to the biggest crimes within responsible bioculture, or more precicely responsible animal culture in the World.
Before we adopt the values of social organizations, we should secure our right to eat meat to some degree, and also secure humans the right to responsible bioculture, being the rights to propagate plants and animals in a responsible manner.
As we speak, animal rights organizations in Norway seek to decapitate the diversity of companion animal husbandry, restricting it to a handful of highly domesticated species...
And I could go on and on, but will stop here in hope that I have been able to elaborate sufficiently on my fear on the thoughts promoted in this vid.
I hope we can adress the ethics of social organizations which are detrimantal to ethics and economical health in our societies, weeding out the trash in ethics, before we adopt the rest, so to say.
Looking in retrospect, animal rights organizations have never been as big and powerful as now. I would argue they even have a sginificant influence on global economy. Their divide and conquer tactis has proven very successful and in Europe we have seen how a negative piece of legislation (irrationally detrimental to responsible agriculture or responsible companion animal husbadry) can spread from one country`s legislation to the next. Working in cooperation and altruistically funding each other, it is easy to see how morderate global efforts can start a snow ball effect where the smallest countries in Europe are used as poineer examples for Central Europe to follow.
Also, by infiltrating the government, the animal rights movement in norway has aqquired a significant amounts of state funding, which further enable and empower these social roganizations in their quest to end our use of animals, putting all animal users in one basket and labling them irresponsible/unethical.
I hope this comes out as constructive criticism rather than angry rant by a criminal gecko farmer in Norway.

Kindest regards
Vålen Gånev / obeligz
Vivarium consultant Reptilweb.no, REXANO (responsible exotic animal owners)
Norwegian liaison EUFORA (European FOrum for Reptiles and amphibians)
Blogger @ reptilegeeks.com
BLBC private (Bush League Breeders Club)
Member of Kingsnake.com, reptilfreaks.no, reptile planet, repti.net and many other reptile sites.
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