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Uncommon Knowledge: Charles Kesler

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Zachary
Posted: 10.27.09, 12:52 AM
Are your female friends feminine in the sense of misogynistic determination or in some non-traditional undefined sense? I think you might review Mr. Kesler's remarks on feminism in the context of which he spoke them: the 1960s and the sexual revolution. Feminism in the 60s was remarkably pro-sex, which is different from today. In the 60s feminists didn't complain about being treated as sex objects, rather they promoted such a view because it was seen as a position of power. This in turn is bad for women. It's good not to base one's masculinity on dominance, but I think it's probably okay to base one's masculinity on a high regard for the protection of women. I'm amused at male feminists who refuse to treat women with deference or honor, and who somehow still manage to congratulate themselves on their enlightenment. I'm sure every deadbeat father that impregnates a woman and refuses to commit to her in marriage congratulates himself on his egalitarian views.
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andrew.mcgill
Posted: 06.20.09, 03:26 AM
I'm male, and i find his argument not only dangerous...but completely indefensible. Women were not rescued from 'femininity' Mr Kesler, they were rescued from a subservient, misogynistic determination of what construed femininity. I work for women and the women in my family all work. And yet i can confirm to you that they are VERY feminine. All my female friends work and they are all very feminine. And all my male friends and I are all very masculine. We just don't base our masculinity on our dominance over women as men once did. And we are better men for it!
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eglasgow
Posted: 06.17.09, 02:54 PM
Family life pre-women's lib only looked more functional - it wasn't more functional than it is today, and if it was, the decline in family function is due to other factors, like certain technological developments - basically lifestyle changes. But women's lib is a productive development that came centuries, maybe millennia, too late, thanks to people who question its benefits like nextprevious seems to.
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nextprevious
Posted: 06.17.09, 02:31 PM
Laugh all you want, 8:30dreamer, but he has a point. Men and women ARE different. Ever since women's lib came on the scene, family life is not as functional. I'm not anti-women's lib, but don't dismiss his argument entirely.
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Posted: 06.17.09, 02:00 PM
Meh. The ads aren't that bad. I laughed so hard at the highlight on women's lib...who does this guy think he's kidding?
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Fountain
Posted: 06.16.09, 11:24 AM
I'm ok with the ads. However you need to pay the bills is fine by me.
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josealonsoleon
Posted: 06.16.09, 04:46 AM
Peter Robinson is one of the best if not the best interviewer I have seen. He does his research and demonstrates believable understanding of the topic at hand. Furthermore he asks the right questions with tact and consideration regardless of his personal opinions which do not interfere with the guests position. I also liked very much Charles Kesler which I did not know. To ForaTV, I really like your programs and topics but since you have introduced advertisement it is very painful and distracting. Especially the stupid ads that glitter and flicker while we are listening to the program and that are trying to attract our attention to the incredible chance we have of being able to apply for a FUCKING green card to live and work in America. Come on please there is more to life then living in America. These ads make it look like if we don't click on them we are losers. Can you make your ads a little more discrete, this is not YouTube for crying out loud!
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