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Outrage: A Controversial Film Outs Gay Politicians

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dbmcvey Avatar
dbmcvey
Posts: 9
Posted: 02.22.10, 03:25 PM
Elleno--that you use the term "fudge packer" betrays your own hate--gay people can disagree, and other gay people can call them hypocrites--that's the American way. Also, no, the filmaker isn't gay.
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dbmcvey
Posts: 9
Posted: 02.22.10, 03:23 PM
When someone has gay sex then works against the rights of others to do so they should absolutely be outed as the hypocrite that they are.
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MTGRAY
Posts: 119
Posted: 06.10.09, 02:03 PM
Frankly life goes on either or your ideas. But when the rights to live in peace
with your valves is being twisted by the social controls of what is correct
and not correct then the family itself will no longer be.
Besides a greater % of gay peoples come from oppressive right wing conservatives
and their rejection from such fascist views has cause them to speak out.
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meok
Posts: 1
Posted: 06.07.09, 11:28 PM
Politically why should he worry about being outed. That is unless his constituency sees his position as hypocritical themselves. Can't his constituency deal with an elected gay man?
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Elleno
Posts: 2
Posted: 05.28.09, 02:30 PM
So let me get this right: if you are gay you can only have one point of view. You must support gay marriage, gay adoption and other leftist gay campaigns.

Perhaps being gay one might understand how terrible depriving a child of both a mother and a father is, for example, and that's why you oppose adoption.

Can anyone tell me whether the director of the film is a fudge packer? He certainly looks like one.
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scott wafrock
Posts: 1
Posted: 05.26.09, 06:32 AM
i have to agree with the previous posted replies. don't politicians, anyone for that matter, have the right to keep secrets about themselves? maybe governor crist is gay and his stance on the defense of marriage amendment/adoption is how he honestly feels. the media should respect an individual's privacy. the truth will "out" in it's own good time.
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AdamTheBaddun
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Posted: 05.23.09, 08:49 PM
I agree completely; I think Kirby Dick has a bad habit of making important assumptions about situations that require a more nuanced understanding or interpretation. His film "This Film is Not Yet Rated" makes a strong case that the Motion Picture Association of America ratings board is, and always has been, homophobic, and then uses this to illustrate the idea that anything that challenges family values in mainstream cinema is censored. Whatever the case may be regarding the MPA and its pro/demotion of homophobia, it is a private institution that studios can choose to submit their pictures to for rating, and in no way qualifies as state-cencorship. I think this film will make a similar kind of mistake with regards to homosexual politicians who don't support homosexual politics per se. zzoliche makes the point as well as I could; I instantly felt a sense of annoyance at Dick when he called Crist's position 'hypocritical'; the man can be gay and not for gay rights after all. He may well believe that gays don't deserve to adopt or marry, but he may be quite willing to accept that about his lifestyle. These kind of distinctions are important to make. I'm also suspicious of Dick's motivatation in making this film; I believe he's outing Crist for political reasons and also out of a misguided belief that "once I've outed him, he'll make the case for gay rights within his party, he'll be happier with the consistency of his lifestyle and his politics and we'll all gain overall". I can't prove that of course, but the way in which he candidly acknowledges the fact that Crist will be hurt by the film, plus his track record of finger-pointing mixed with a strong track-record of cultural superiority leads me to conclude that such reasoning has been employed in some part of his brain.
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zzoliche
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Posted: 05.23.09, 04:11 AM
I think this documentary is informed by a deeply misguided assumption. Much as homosexual activists may take issue with it, there's nothing hypocritical about wanting to enjoy homosexual erotic experience, while not supporting the mainstreaming of homosexuality as part of the dominant culture. Whether anyone approves or not, there's nothing inconsistent or hypocritical about it. It's just our all too tired obsession with identity politics that confuses anyone into seeing this stance as inconsistent.
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