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chrisrushlau Avatar
chrisrushlau
Posts: 4
Posted: 06.15.09, 11:46 AM
"Bias" is a term from cloth manufacturing, a "bias cut" being diagonal to the direction of the weave. If cloth is a metaphor for human philosophical assumptions, we are all biased. The interesting question is, which way does your weave run?
There seems no rational reason for the US or NATO to be in Afghanistan, so what might an irrational reason be?
"Anxiety" is a term related to "strangulation"--as in the idiomatic "choking". The US and NATO seem to be having an identify crisis if not psychotic break, and are "acting out" this psychodrama, which they explain as "defense of the homeland", on the homelands of people who never attacked them and have often been attacked by them.
So I would suggest we study anxiety in the US and Europe if we want to understand and affect what they are doing in Asia.
tamkin Avatar
tamkin
Posts: 2
Posted: 06.14.09, 05:52 PM
It is interesting that on such discussion forums there is no presence of Afghanis or Pakistanis, which is to say that the West continues to act and believe that it knows what these people think and want. Why not hear their voice in real time?

Why would a people want the presence of an external nation in their land? To promote peace? The existence of religious fundamentalism is the consequence of the most abysmal poverty in this region. Religion is an outlet for pent-up fury against three decades of strife. Power needs to be slowly devolved to the local people. For how long can the troops last in Afghanistan? Forever? And why is there this assumption that these people will tear each other's throats once the US pulls out - like children without an angry parent to supervise them. Well, the Afghanis are not children.

As for India: it doesn't have much stakes in the region, given the foreboding presence of the US. Also there is nuclear deterrence in the region. The military in Pakistan cannot be separated from a generalized Islamic flair - but that is not be confused with Talibanism. Much of the Taliban are pretty much detested in Pakistan's urban centers. The safety of the nukes isn't simply a matter of military secrecy but the cohesion of state infrastucture in Pakistan. The real question is: how long will that last?

Overall, the conversation in this video is quite biased.
anoniab Avatar
anoniab
Posts: 2
Posted: 04.04.09, 04:49 PM
If there is to ever be stability in the region, we need to butt out and let them work things out for themselves. We stuck our noses into the Afghan/Russia issue and that's why we were back over there again. Enough already.
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chrisrushlau
Posts: 4
Posted: 04.03.09, 07:59 AM
Her remark, in this three minute excerpt, raises the question of whether it is in the US national interest or that of Afghanistan to provide the government in Afghanistan. Does government grow out of the soil of the people's experience? A man told me in Iraq that after we toppled their government, it was now necessary for a new government to grow up, because a government is like a tree.
Not a statue.
The moderator interrupted to try to "spin" her excerpted remark by asking "So they're afraid we're going to leave?" The US leadership is obviously afraid of something in "Afpak"--of being attacked by someone "tied to" Afpak, as President Obama put it last week.
I would ask her, "If you were Secretary-General of the UN, would you recommend the NATO/US force continue in Afghanistan (with operations into Pakistan), or is this force detrimental to the healthy if painful development of these two countries in the longer run, and thus to the stability of the world?" I could focus that better: what did she tell the Afghans who told her they wanted the US to "help but not to control"? Did she just nod her head and take a note? What does she think? You're right, I should watch the whole talk.
I wonder if the same rural-urban split she mentions in terms of progressiveness also applies to a sense of being under occupation--more of both in the urban areas? It would stand to reason and mesh with what she said about Iraq. There are commonalities in that we are trying to "nation-build" and "fight terror" in both places. How does she view that description of our general policy?
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