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San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom in Conversation

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TreeLuvBurdpu Avatar
TreeLuvBurdpu
Posted: 05.31.09, 10:46 AM
Brendett, you should consider that not everyone believes the only truth comes from a 2-3 thousand year old book. There are newer books and older ones. If we only believed the church's interpretation of the bible we would think the Sun revolved around the Earth and that the Earth was flat and that the Earth and all it's inhabitants were created one week ten thousand or so years ago. If you look at my logo to the left you can see explosions in the Milky Way which clearly originated long before ten thousand years ago. This forum is for a little more than just how everything relates to your favorite book. But that makes me think of a question for you: As you look at the world around you every day what do you believe more, what you see in front of your face and can touch and smell, or the bible? And if you see something that is not explained in the bible, does that mean it's the end of the world, or just the end of your understanding of it?
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Brendett
Posted: 05.29.09, 05:52 AM
I am for marriage between a man and a woman. That is the way God wanted it to be. Gay people cant have children, only by adoption to be dads and dads or moms and moms.Sex between a man and a woman is the only way you bring a child into this world.If there were no children to be adopted would there be any children replenishing the earth by GAY people? I don't care what a politicians thinks he or she is doing is the right thing. But if any state passes the gay rights bill and claims to be a Christian and has a Christian back ground in church are liars, and you are condemning these people to hell. I have read the bible and no where does it say God approves of same sex marriages in the book! show it to me if its there,and you better not rewrite the bible..... God is bigger than any politicians could ever be, do you want Gods judgment on your head for something that is so very wrong for this country. You mean to tell me that a four legged wild animals has more since and brains then humans being do there are no gay animals in the wild....Why is that ? That's why it by choice not by birth that people are GAY! No doctor will ever convince me other wise.I believe that these people suffer from a childhood where they were sexually abused in there families or by a friend.The results of the bad sex act done to them was to become a GAY PERSON after the fact. No one has ask that question to these gay people ? And would they really tell us the truth about it? This gay right bill is not about earth human principals, its about the right thing to do from Gods words .
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TreeLuvBurdpu
Posted: 05.27.09, 11:14 PM
Marriage is the last institution expressing the significance of the male/female relationship, although it may be the first institution. There is some evidence that marriage my be one of the first of all institutions, predating nations, cities and tribes. And the male/female relationship has had significance long before tribes, humans, and primates. It is the only way our species abides. Any refashioning of this foundation of every modern culture should be discussed within this framework as well as equal rights.
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RoyalWe
Posted: 04.11.09, 07:21 AM
No one - at least not me - said they didn't believe what he is stating publicly. But the notion that it requires "courage" to take the position he has taken is silly - it's perfectly in keeping with his political interests in solidifying his base in SF. Of course that handicaps him when going national - but it's impossible to be a popular mayor of SF w/o handicapping yourself when going national, he knew that going in so it's a moot point.
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William Schlotterer
Posted: 03.17.09, 10:09 PM
Great insights and incisive thoughts. Newsom is so intelligent and forthright he doesn't stand a chance in larger political venues.
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gcoppinger
Posted: 03.17.09, 04:09 PM
Gavin Newsom is one of the only straight politicians in our country who is demanding queer equality. If that gives him a platform, so what?? Do you honestly think he doesn't believe we deserve equality? Pah-lease. He very much believes what he's saying. The man stood up to the Governator and started allowing gay marriages in San Fran because it was the right thing to do! Us queer people need MORE Gavin Newsoms in politics if we ever want our equality and we're smart enough to know it. I don't give a rat's ass if it gives him a platform. More power to him! When a politician stands up for the rights of minorities, it will always be "politicizing" to whatever degree you're implying, but it doesn't make it wrong.
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RoyalWe
Posted: 03.17.09, 12:16 PM
This is hilarious. NO on - literally, not one single person - has done more to politicize gay marriage than Gavin Newsom. I also find his sanctimonious "I embrace the Democratic Party because it has ALWAYS stood on principle" line to be borderline comedy. Seriously - on what basis can anyone say that either party has always stood on principle? Add to that the nerve that it takes to claim that the Democratic Party fought for civil rights even though it would lose them the South- the Democratic Party, as a matter of platform, was one of the last obstacles to civil rights in the South. Newsom is a pure politician. Nothing else.
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