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Keith Ward: Misusing Darwin

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PeterMcEvoy Avatar
PeterMcEvoy
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Posted: 02.27.09, 01:11 PM
As much as I would like to disagree, Ward is right. This video had a pretty bad rating before of 2.5 stars, but I suspect that's because people just disagree with him and didn't give the video a chance.

My two cents? I can't believe that people in the UK actually get to listen to this in Church! I can't imagine my fellow Americans (religious types, leastaways) going each Sunday to hear such a rousing discussion of the fundamentals of reality.
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captain Avatar
captain
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Posted: 05.20.09, 03:25 PM
Multiverse = Supernatural?

Not sure where he get's that one. I haven't heard a scientist talk about a multiverse in any respect resembling the supernatural.
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captain
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Posted: 05.20.09, 03:52 PM
He analyzes the science as intricately as possible to reveal potential flaws, but then reverts to speculation when addressing the spiritual concepts.

I agree with his final statement.
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mvanveen
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Posted: 06.01.09, 09:49 PM
Is science not spiritual? It is about gaining knowledge and understanding isn't it?
How common and material is the world we perceive anyway, if it gets transformed into mental images?
Is it perfect? no, but at least it has its arguments.
But the video shows that you can use science in order to present your philosophical point of view about spirituality, and that is a fact.
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halneufmille
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Posted: 06.05.09, 04:12 PM
Very interesting philosophical questions. Always sad though to have them come from someone trying to sneak his cherished preconceived Christian theology in every corner of it.
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maxmax
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Posted: 07.01.09, 06:01 AM
An excellent discourse.

This is better directed to very vocal scientists who attack religion and its compatibility with science. The truth is, most of these vocal scientists inject their own personal philosophies into the sciences, hiding such personal philosophies or beliefs in the name of "science."
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lofi
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Posted: 08.20.09, 12:48 AM
there are so many mistakes and wordgames in this presentation but i understand where this guys coming from so im not really surprised why he deliberately misinterpreted some facts i guess.

he fights "misusing darwin" by misusing physics amd science in general. thats not cool but it nevertheless could be very comforting to some people.
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mike4761
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Posted: 09.01.09, 02:52 PM
Polonius
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Colin Weedon
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Posted: 12.19.09, 10:27 AM
Peter McEvoy is right - we (in the UK) don't get this sort of stuff in church - I heard him speak two weeks ago in a lecture room at Reading University. It looks like a church because it's in Gresham College - an interesting place of learning in London. The mansion was Sir Thomas Gresham's home and he left it to the nation - as a grand palace, it would have had its own chapel which is (I guess) what you see. Wikipedia has a good entry on the college :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham_College

Hope this is of interest
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Colin Weedon
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Posted: 12.19.09, 01:09 PM
Having watched the whole programme now, I agree with Peter McEvoy - - Ward's last sentence was a superb summing up of my own experience.
"Creationism should NOT be taught in British schools - - and neither should Materialism, but that is what is happening "

I was educated in the UK between 1954 and 1970 - - I did not, at the time, realise that there was an unspoken, underlying, insidious agenda to inculcate materialism - as a result, I chose atheism, and lived until the age of 48 before discovering the spiritual aspect of my life, which has since been transformed.

Neither Creationism nor Materialism are fit subjects for our children to study until they have accumulated enough life experience and wisdom to make sensible choices.
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