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What We Talk About When We Talk About Israel

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JonnyK Avatar
JonnyK
Posts: 1
Posted: 11.02.10, 09:57 PM
There was never a Palestinian state. Check your facts dude.
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dzhibrish Avatar
dzhibrish
Posts: 2
Posted: 08.24.10, 10:13 PM
There was not a country here,there was the british mandate and before it the ottoman empire, and many of the arabs came into Israel as a result of the massive Jewish immigration into Israel at the end of the 19th and through the 20th century..
The influx of population which obviously created economic growth made arabs from many different areas around israle immigrate into it...These are check-able facts..

To those claiming Jews were the tools of British colonialism are wrong since the brits were always working actively against jewish immigration into Israel.
Google "british white book israel" and check for yourself.

Jews immigrated and bought lands here and the Palestinian population only began to lose land when it refused the separation agreement in 1948 and helped the other arab countries attack Israel.
As Israel fended the 1948 joint attack many of the Palestinian citizens fled out as a result of their own leaders telling them to, this is also check-able fact.

Nobody of course speaks of the roughly 800,000 jews expelled from arab countries immediately after the establishment of Israel..
And nobody is taking about their right of return or compensation for the lives and property they lost when they were forced to move out of their countries.
Perhaps we don't hear about them cause israel did all it could to assimilate them as oppose to the Palestinain refugees that were preserved in refugee status by the arab countries.

Not only were they "pickeled" by arab countries but the UN itself gave them unique status of refugees that is inherited!!thus creating millions more living as refugees in arab countries as the years went by.
this has never been done to any other refugee group in human history.
Could this be cause the UN is completely biased versus Israel and the arab/muslim states enjoy a constant 55 country support for their opinions and desires?

Think about it and before you make statements read about the subject.
If you judge, at least judge from a place of knowledge and not misconception and ignorance.
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aBurmeseMuslim
Posts: 38
Posted: 06.20.10, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JPStrydom
I find it deeply ironic that Mr Gorenberg speaks of the Israeli love for the land, and how painful it was to let it go, while completely ignoring that there already was a state there, with families and government and a history and that love the land as much as the israelis do.

How is a Palestinian's love for the Westbank different from that of an Israeli's?
Really. It amazes me how people can be so biased and promote such blatant hatred by totally ignoring the rights of a people who have lived there for thousands of years, not thousand of years ago for a mere 200 years and even that was not consecutively.


Israel is the continuation of colonialism by Europeans on non Europeans and Zionism was the tool used. All countries that have experienced the colonist rule must understand the evil of colonialism
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JPStrydom
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Posted: 01.14.10, 05:33 PM
I find it deeply ironic that Mr Gorenberg speaks of the Israeli love for the land, and how painful it was to let it go, while completely ignoring that there already was a state there, with families and government and a history and that love the land as much as the israelis do.

How is a Palestinian's love for the Westbank different from that of an Israeli's?
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adambl +
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Posted: 05.26.09, 11:58 AM
Stay thirsty, my friend.
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josealonsoleon
Posts: 22
Posted: 04.12.09, 04:42 PM
Mr Gorenberg, you have done a wonderful job of explaining your point of view of the situation, its a shame that not more of your coreligionists speak the same language. Thanks to Fora.Tv for giving us this wonderful insight of a man that carries within him a message of peace.
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