Is the future of religion scientific? Is the future of science religious? UC Berkeley and the Magnes co-host a panel discussion on faith and reason in the 21st Century, inspired by The Atheon, a public artwork by Jonathon Keats- The Judah L. Magnes Museum
Bio
Robert Burton
Robert A. Burton, M.D., graduated from Yale University and the University of California at San Francisco medical school, where he also completed his neurology residency. At age thirty-three, he was appointed chief of the Division of Neurology at Mt. Zion-UCSF Hospital, where he subsequently became Associate Chief of the Department of Neurosciences. His non-neurology writing career includes three critically acclaimed novels and a neuroscience and culture column at Salon.com-- Mind Reader. He lives in the San Francisco Bay Area.
John Campbell
John Campbell is Professor of Philosophy at UC Berkeley and author of Past, Space and Self (1994) and Reference and Consciousness (2002).
Alla Efimova
Alla Efimova is the Chief Curator at the Judah L. Magnes Museum.
Jonathon Keats
Jonathon Keats is a conceptual artist, novelist, and critic. He is creator of Atheon. For his most recent exhibition, at Modernism Gallery in San Francisco, he customized the metric system. He has also attempted to genetically engineer God in a petri dish, in collaboration with scientists at the University of California, and petitioned Berkeley to pass a fundamental law of logic – A=A – a work commissioned by the city's annual Arts Festival.
He has been awarded Yaddo and MacDowell fellowships, and his projects have been documented by The San Francisco Chronicle, KQED-TV, and the BBC World Service.
Dr. Ilan Roth
Dr. Iian Roth is Senior Physicist, Space Sciences Laboratory, UC Berkeley. Dr. Ilan Roth has extensive experience in the application of analytical and numerical methods to problems in space physics: aurora, cusp, ring current, planets, solar and astrophysical environments. He is Co-Investigator on the Cluster satellites and is involved in the FAST, WIND and POLAR satellite projects. He is the co-author of the theory of the He-3 and heavy ions acceleration in solar flares as well as numerous magnetospheric acceleration processes from thermal auroral ions to relativistic electrons. He was also involved in an analysis of the recently discovered spikes on auroral field lines.
American conceptual artist Jonathon Keats talks about the Atheon, a secular temple devoted to scientific worship. The temple's credo is to make faith rational.
Dr. Robert Burton raises the issue of whether the brain and the mind are one in the same. Do humans have souls? Do we have an essence as human beings, or are we physical?
Has God known the formula: E=Mc^2 ?
If God has known the formula why HE / SHE /IT
didn't write it in His Bible?
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Can God be atheist, governed by scientific laws?
Have physicists found the God?
I think, Yes. They have.
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The people created a God.
No one knows what the external characteristics
of this God are, a God who made himself known
with the name " I am who I am ".
Is it enough for us in the XXIc ?
Why didn’t the formula E=Mc^2 write in the Bible?
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Each religion uses a system of symbols
(images, metaphors, ancient myths and legends ,
beautiful stories) to explain its truth.
But Bernard Shaw wisely remarked :
“ There is only one religion,
although there are a hundred versions of it.”
It means that the source of all religion is one.
And I try to prove this idea with the formulas and laws of
physics. I don’t invent new formulas. I use simple formulas
which ,maybe, every man knows from school.
Is it possible? Is it enough?
Yes. Because the evolution goes from simple to the complex.
So, in the beginning we can use simple formulas and laws.
For this purpose I explain what the first law of Universe is,
and second law is and ...........etc.
Step by step I create a logical system of the Universe.
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Can God be atheist, governed by scientific laws?
I think: Yes, of course.
Why?
Because if God exists, he would necessarily to work
in an Absolute Reference Frame and have set of physical
and mathematical laws to create everything in the Universe.
And we can find and understand this Absolute God’s House
and we can find and understand Cod’s Laws of the Nature.
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If I were God, I would give chance to Human
to understand who I am by analyzing the physical
formulas, equations and laws. Because to create Everything
I need them. So, logically, catching the thread of the physics
Human can understand Me and My Work.
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Science and Religion: Is there a conflict ?
Or maybe:
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
/ Albert Einstein. /
Or maybe:
All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree.
/ Albert Einstein. /
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Science and Religion: Is there any conflict?
Or maybe there isn’t any conflict.
Religion or Physics ? Faith or Knowledge ?
Or maybe our stupidity asks these questions.
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Different points of view.
1.
In Physics we trust. / Tarun Biswas /
and plus millions of other believers .
2.
Science is not always as objective as we would like to believe.
/ Michael Talbot. / and plus few others.
3.
Religion or Physics ? Faith or Knowledge ?
/ some doubtful people. /
4.
Science and God just do not mix, both defy each other.
Science and religion are like oil and water, you can't
mix them together and expect a solution.
/ most people /
5.
Science and religion in tandem can become a great force
to liberate the mind and help the humans to a fuller and better
understanding of reality.
/ G. S. Sidhu / and plus some individuals .
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P.S.
In Physics we trust.
Is it correct ? Of course, it is logically correct.
Because only Physics can logically explain us
the Ultimate Nature of Reality.
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. Socratus.
"we ain't seen the end of this mess yet!"
I truly hope you are wrong. I too had to stop the video only a short way through. I made it to where Mr. Keats stated he would like to see a temple to science. A place to worship science? Why on earth would any rational person ever want to "worship" science, or anything else for that matter. Science is a body of knowledge, not a belief. Ridiculous.
I'm sorry but I could not go beyond the point at which the guy with a bow tie said "if science is to replace religion.....". Where on earth did this weirdo get such an idea? Sciences does not want to replace Religion and it should not. Science only explains how ridiculous the supernatural beliefs are and how to start thinking with our own minds without the use of scriptures and less then presumably holy books that are imposed on us by even less holly people. The problem is that these people do believe their high priests as being holy......we ain't seen the end of this mess yet!
This is so profoundly wrongheaded.
When one decides to pursue an atheistic, non-believing, rational/scientifically inspired life, by design they are abandoning the comforts offered by religion. Science is like cold breeze coming through an open window, it chills the skin but awakens the senses. It is a fundamentally different way of approaching the world, and to conflate it with religious "utility" is grossly ignorant.
Twinhall, you sound like you haven't read terribly much science. Don't I recall a time when the church was offended by Hoyle's discovery of a vacuum? The reasoning was that God cannot exist in a vacuum, and thus a vacuum is impossible. Be careful about making uninformed statements.
I agree with twinhall except that “absurdly” is hardly strong enough to express such an asinine attempt to inject religious BS into the rigid rules of science. What an insult to science. Wasn’t scientology bad enough? Science must be vigilantly aware of such Trojan horses. Science can only replace the ignorance of religion with truth and knowledge.
I think this is an absurdly bad idea. The whole point of religion is to investigate that which science cannot. Religions exalt a higher being. This Atheon is the worship of humans and their "accomplishments." It seems a bit self-congratulatory in my eyes. Especially given the track record of science and its correspondence to truth I would be hesitant to worship it.