New York Times bestselling author and Edgar Award nominee Stephen Singular discusses his new book When Men Become Gods: Mormon Polygamist Warren Jeffs, His Cult of Fear, and the Women Who Fought Back.
One of the women profiled in Singular's book, Laura Chapman, a former FLDS member who escaped polygamy and was profiled recently on CBS' 48 Hours, also speaks at this event- Tattered Cover Book Store
Laura Chapman is a child services worker for the state of Colorado and an activist against polygamy.
She was raised in the Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints community until she left with her five children.
Since 1987, Singular has published 17 more non-fiction books that reflect a wide range of interest and diversity of styles. Twice a New York Times best selling author, he's written three books about sports, including collaborations with NBA legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and controversial NFL superstar Terrell Owens, and biographies of Hollywood power players Michael Ovitz and David Geffen. True crime remained the focal point of his work, but he'd begun writing less about individual crimes and more about social crimes. His 1995 study of the O.J. Simpson case, Legacy of Deception, went beneath the media hysteria surrounding these murders and connected the violent bigotry of The Order with the racist corruption inside the Los Angeles Police Department. Singular's 1999 book, Presumed Guilty: An Investigation into the JonBenet Ramsey Case, the Media, and the Culture of Pornography, performed a similar role for the infamous child killing in Boulder, Colorado.
Marriage to more than one spouse at a time. Although the term may also refer to polyandry (marriage to more than one man), it is often used as a synonym for polygyny (marriage to more than one woman), which appears to have once been common in most of the world and is still found widely in some cultures. Polygyny seems to offer the husband increased prestige, economic stability, and sexual companionship in cultures where pregnancy and lactation dictate abstinence, while offering the wives a shared labour burden and an institutionalized role where a surplus of unmarried women might otherwise exist. The polygynous family is often fraught with bickering and sexual jealousy; to preserve harmony, one wife may be accorded seniority, and each wife and her children may have separate living quarters. Polyandry is relatively rare; in parts of the Himalayas, where brothers may marry a single woman, the practice serves to limit the number of descendants and keep limited land within the household.
I find the objections of "mainstream" Mormons unfounded. Singular distinguishes between FLDS and LDS. He explains why he uses the word "Mormon" to describe both and I think his reasoning is sound, though I can see how LDS members might find it offensive.
The talk touches on some embarassing aspects of the LDS Chuch. I have often wondered why no one asks Mitt Romney about the old LDS beliefs about Blacks (I don't say African-American here because I assume the "seed of Cain" refers to all black people). Sure, the church had a "new revelation" and renounced its racist teachings, but Romney was an adult man BEFORE this new revelation. Did he hold these beliefs? Does he hold them now? I don't see how any person of color could vote for him without a convincing answer to this important question.
I'm going to get Stephen Singular's book. I have read the other comments from LDS, FLDS, RLDS, polygamist and Mormons; the problem is you guys are so brain washed you can't see the forest for the trees. I'm sorry, once something becomes so tainted you step away from it. All of the world sees the above as associated with this Warren Jeffs.
Understand I would no more allow my children to be involved with the Catholic church because they have also become well known as protecting child molesters and pedophiles. Be advised I went to Catholic school and I KNOW it happened with young boys there. No, it isn't all, but enough that I just won't join that club, I can't risk my children.
If you want to separate yourselves then form something new, because what you're asking is like asking people not to see all boys wearing boy scout uniforms as boy scouts. It's just not going to happen. This guy trashed whatever was good and beautiful about your group; not the rest of society, one of your leaders did this to you.
If you are good then step away from this "cult" become your own person, God actually (I bet) would be more proud of you if you weren't just a follower, but you were able to stand on your own 2 feet. Be strong, walk away. God didn't invent a church, he invented man.
You are arguing semantics. I am not mormon nor am I defending them. But really this video is quasi educational.
I guess if you want ot see only one side of the coin then you are close minded in my book. I believe all religions have their beauty and their horrors. I tend to find truth were ever it can be found.
I guess it is easier to just focus on polygamy and ignore the fact that Mormons have one of the largest most effective charitable organizations in the world (LDS not FLDS). They have one of the largest woman's organizations in the world called the Relief Society that was originaly created to help bring relief to those people who are needy, and who do even more so now. I guess we can ingore all the good things and focus only the evil of every pariah of a culture or belief.
I have read the BOM, the Quran, The Torah, Buddhist Sutras, Confucious, Bible and etc etc...any belief can be used for evil purposes...even science (theories are a type of belief (and many scientists have been dogmatic about false theories or unproved theorie), laws I will grant you are different)...i.e. Japanese WWII who used science to advance their ability to kill in more effecient ways and nothing to do with religion, the Emperor was powerless during these years (although the military used them as Catholics and Muslims used their beliefs to justify terrors).
Flawed logic. He is catagorizing Mormons as one sect. But it is like calling all Muslims are the same. Shi'ites and Sunis are similar to LDS and FLDS. Actually FLDS are like Wahabis, RLDS are like Shi'ites and LDS are Sunni. Now by his same logic all Christians are the same.
FLDS is derived from Morman division when Polygamy was banned from the church. Just as the RLDS split off when there was a discussion of you should succeed Joseph.
Lets also break down another flaw. FLDS are polygamists therefore all Mormons are Polygamists. That is saying that all Muslims are terrorists and that all Catholic Priests are Child molestors as some one has said.
Here is another Flaw....the woman says they are cousins. So if your cousin is a psycho killer then you by default are a psycho killer.
I use to be Mormon but I really hate when people come up with stupid generalizations about any faith. Please FORA this is not really educationsl. We all know Mormons "ues to be" polygamist.
Here is another defense I cannot wait to get trashed on. Some people who say polygamy is wrong go to bars and joke about having 2 girls at once. Then there are those who are married and have a mistress on the side. Do you see the probliem with your contradictions? I am not justyfing polygamy but if I were I would say something like this: which is worse the man who supports and cares about his wives (if they are of consenting age not 12 year olds like the pervert Jeffs) or one that hides behind his wifes back and supports another woman for purely lustful purposes. To tell you the truth anyone who puts away one wife so he can get his sexual fix somewhere else outside the confines of his oath with his wife is just as bad. So keep casting stones people it is fun when you are not the one being hit.
Last note in the history of man having one woman as your wife has only played a short role in our history....look at any culture..i.e. the Chinese still practice the concubine system, so do many developing nations. Monogamy is rare in the Hominid world. Just so you know. But every culture can agree on and we on FORA can agree Jeffs is a pervert. What his beliefs are doesn't really matter, according to social norms and mores, Jeffs is a pervert.
Seems that only convinced Mormons reacted to this video. And of course they have to defend their believes. Creeds, which to me, excuse me, sound even more ridiculous and objectionable than the mainstream monotheistic belief systems.
I hope FORA isn't influenced by these voices ob obscurantism. Thanks for the video.
Intersting piece, partly true, partly false.
It's true that Mormon's and FLDS claim the same roots, however one is a radical offshoot of the other. Every media outlet I've seen that has reported recently on Warren Jeff's cult has made the distinction except for these people.
All religions have their more radical counterparts claiming to be the more pure version clinging to old and sometimes ancient practices but that does not make them the same religion and labeling them the same is wrong and will always ruffle a few feathers.
Most disturbing in the equivalancy the author makes between the two based off of some letters he received. All the while saying he's not a historian.
I find it disturbing that a site such as FORA.TV, which claims in its objectives the goal of avoiding "spin" or issue "positioning" would support this video as consistent with its objectives.
The Speaker in the video (and indirectly FORA.TV for hosting it) support the idea that perceptions of outside viewers (the speaker and FORA) should be able to define a relatively large cross-section of America by the actions of a small group despite the larger group disavowing any ties or approval of any of the small factions actions.
If FOR A supports this course of action, I should expect to see the following video’s posted to the religion category as well:
1. Why all Catholics are Pedophiles base on the actions of Catholic Priests.
2. Find out about how every Muslim in the world believes that you should convert to the One true faith or you will be killed in the righteous name of Allah.
3. Be wary of All Southern Baptists, because they Bomb abortion clinics and kill doctors at their homes.
4. etc. etc.
The LDS Church and its membership have without equivocation but rather great consistency have public asserted that Warren Jeffs and his group of followers are criminals, heretics and not associated formally or informally with them in any regard. There is no tacit approval or support for their actions. Why does FORA determine it is fair to label the larger group base on a faction that while claims some common history from over a hundred years ago, but in actions today acts in a criminal and abhorable fashion?
And FORA.TV supports this and thinks this is appropriate?
I had enjoyed the content and materials provided by Fora.tv up until now. I had considered Fora a good source for accurate and unbiased reports on a large variety of important social, economic, and political topics. However, this piece that alleges that the FLDS Polygamous Sect and the LDS Church headquatered in Salt Lake are the same organization smacks of religious bigotry and bias (or at the very least poor and unprofessional journalism) that is too much to overcome and on top of that I heard that Fora has refused to acknowledge this mistake even after being confronted with this fact. I for one will never come back to Fora or recommend it to any of my friends and will in fact actively direct people away from Fora, unless Fora does something to correct this problem.