While the world's religions have inspired stunning acts of creation, they also have been implicated in some of the darkest deeds in human history.
If God cannot be blamed for such moments of evil, His priests and prophets at least have a case to answer.
So what might they say? That religion is unfairly blamed -- and that we should look to other factors? Admit that there are problems but argue that on balance the good outweighs the bad? That there is no alternative; that people need religion like they need air?- Intelligence Squared
Bio
Richard Ackland
Richard Ackland is a prominent columnist for The Sydney Morning Herald writing on legal and ethical issues.
He is founder of Law Press of Australia, whose publications include The Justinian and The Gazette of Law and Journalism. Ackland has been a staunch advocate of free speech and was co-winner of the prestigious Gold Walkley for Journalism in 1999 following work as writer and presenter of the ABC's Media Watch program.
Ackland has also presented ABC Radio National's breakfast program, covering a range of issues and controversies. In 2000 he was awarded the Voltaire Prize for Free Speech.
Lyn Allison
Lyn Allison was an Australian Democrat Senator from 1996 to 2008. Lyn Allison has been a prominent advocate for women's issues, and human rights.
She served on the Senate Environment and Information Technology Committeee, and the Select Committees inquiring into gambling and Health. Following a study tour to Lebanon, Allison introduced legislation intro Parliament which would prevent Australia from using cluster bombs. Allison is the former Director of the Employment and Economic Development Corporation in Melbourne and a Councillor for the Port Melbopurne City Council.
Earlier this year she was named Humanist of the Year, for her commitment to the democratic process and support for the secular nature of Australian society.
Dr. John Lennox
Dr John Lennox holds three doctorates in the fields of science and mathematics and is a Fellow in Mathematics and Philosophy of Science at Green College, University of Oxford.
His most recent book is God's Undertaker: Has Science Buried God?. Lennox also holds a degree in bioethics and has lectured extensively in Europe, both Western and Eastern, including many visits to Russia as a guest of the Academy of Science. A popular Christian apologist and scientist, he travels widely speaking on the interface between science and religion.
Like Dawkins, he has dedicated his career to science, but he has arrived at very different conclusions. "It is the very nature of science that leads me to belief in God," he says.
Simon Longstaff
Dr Simon Longstaff is Executive Director of St James Ethics Centre. Simon spent five years studying and working as a member of Magdalene College, Cambridge. Having won scholarships to study at Cambridge, he read for the degrees of Master of Philosophy and Doctor of Philosophy. He was inaugural President of The Australian Association for Professional and Applied Ethics and is a Director of a number of companies. He is a Fellow of the World Economic Forum and a member of the International Advisory Committee of the Foreign Policy Association, based in New York.
Ian Plimer
Ian Plimer is Emeritus Professor of Earth Sciences at the University of Melbourne and Professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide.
He is a prominent critic of creationism, and is famous for a debate with creationist Duane Gish in which he asked his opponent to hold live electrical cables to prove that electromagnetism was 'only a theory'. He has published over 120 academic papers and six popular books. He is also a prominent member of the Australian Skeptics.
In 2004 he was awarded the Calrk Medal by the Rioyal Society of NSW. In the late 1990s, Plimer was involved in legal proceedings concerning the location of Noah's Ark, in which Plimer was ultimately unsuccessful. His most recent book, Telling Lies For God, has a forward by Archbishop Peter Hollingsworth. Professor Plimer argues that religion is important for the fabric of society.
Suzanne Rutland
Suzanne Rutland is Associate Professor and Chair of the Department of Hebrew, Biblical & Jewish Studies at the University of Sydney and the main lecturer in the program of Jewish Civilization, Thought and Cultures.
She has published widely on Australian Jewish history, edits the Sydney edition of the AJHS Journal, as well as writing on issues relating to the Shoah and Israel. Her latest books are The Jews in Australia and Triumph of the Jewish Spirit: Forty Years of the Jewish Communal Appeal. In January 2008 she received the Medal of the Order of Australia from the Australian Government for services to Higher Jewish Education and interfaith dialogue.
Vic Stenger
Professor Vic Stenger is emeritus Professor of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Hawaii and adjunct Professor of Philosophy at the University of Colorado. Stenger spent forty years doing basic research in elementary particle physics and astrophysics before retiring in 2000 and moving to Colorado. He is the author of seven books that deal with the interface between science, pseudoscience, and religion including: The Comprehensible Cosmos and God: The Failed Hypothesis - How Science Shows that God Does Not Exist. The last title was on the New York Times bestseller list in 2007. Stenger maintains that plausible natural explanations exist for for all observable phenomena and there is strong scientific evidence against anything mystical or supernatural in the universe.
Relation of human beings to God or the gods or to whatever they consider sacred or, in some cases, merely supernatural. Archaeological evidence suggests that religious beliefs have existed since the first human communities. They are generally shared by a community, and they express the communal culture and values through myth, doctrine, and ritual. Worship is probably the most basic element of religion, but moral conduct, right belief, and participation in religious institutions also constitute elements of the religious life. Religions attempt to answer basic questions intrinsic to the human condition (Why do we suffer? Why is there evil in the world? What happens to us when we die?) through the relationship to the sacred or supernatural or (e.g., in the case of Buddhism) through perception of the true nature of reality. Broadly speaking, some religions (e.g., Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) are outwardly focused, and others (e.g., Jainism, Buddhism) are inwardly focused.
i honestly think this debate could have done with some more convincing contributions, from both sides really. each side didn't really have ample time to address the other side's points, which i think is a shame. i certainly know i was addressing them from the comfort of my own home...
i felt that predominately the speakers focussed on whether or not there is a god, as opposed to the actual question, which should have elicited some different speeches.
my opinion is that without a doubt, we would be better off without religion - not spirituality, just organised religion in it's current form.
one thing that quite offended me from the against side (which a member of the audience adressed) was the statement made that humans need religion, they desperately NEED to believe in a higher power. this point is easily made moot by just one person who does NOT need religion, of which i am but one. i do not steal, i would never commit adultery, and i would never kill someone. not because the bible says not to, but because i am human and those morals are within me. if you look at cultures without religion as we know it, heck even the animal kingdom presents qualities such as family and altruism - all without a bible on hand.
i am really confused why the issue of communism was brought up - it has nothing to do with atheism and i don't believe any elaboration is required here - they are simply two different things. simple.
the only thing i think that would be missed by myself if religion were done away with, would be culture. we've all been places, perhaps overseas and experienced the wonder and joy of immersing oneself in another culture - the food, the dress, the dance, music and festivals. i believe that probably the vast majority of these things have been brought about as a result of that society's religion, and it's conflicting to love to exlpore another culture yet despise it's organised religion.
i walk around and am in awe of nature, of the beauty of our planet and of the sequence of events that took place in our universe, in our solar system, on our planet, to create me now, and have me typing this. it's astounding. i have no idea how we got here. i haven't the faintest idea why we exist, or if there is a *higher* purpose for us. the thing i don't understand is why we can't embrace this mystery. at no point during my curious wonderings about this life do i feel as if a lack of an answer should lead to:
war and terrorism;
worship of a god that may not exist;
following a set of complex and unecessary rules;
reading and worship of an outdated text that has no relevance to this time or place;
sexism;
homophobia;
stoning of adulterers;
denying sexual education to those most in need of it;
abstinence;
instilling fear into the hearts and minds of children, telling them someone is watching their every move;
etc.
i believe in humans - we can do so many amazing things, we can laugh, love someone deeply, create life, fly, swim, tell stories, foster intellect and curiosity, become companions with the other animals on this earth, sing, dance and the list goes on. why can't we just keeping wondering? searching for the truth without damning those who don't share our thoughts on the matter?
Wow.... you have to be joking. Do you know absolutely nothing about geology whatsoever? "The Great flood is history..." Please, go to school, go to a library, pick up a book, learn something.
The problem with the world flood is that one did not occur within the past ~6000 years as a literal interpretation of the Bible would date the Universe.
There is no evidence whatsoever for a world flood at this time. Geologically it just isn't factual. History that didn't happen is bad history. It is ignorance and misinformation. That Folklore of story being told to people before they can think for themselves is culpable and not respectable. That is what is wrong with History.
Can a Rational Individual believe in God ?
In other words:
Can God be atheist, governed by scientific laws?
Of course
Because if God exists, he must work in Absolute
Reference Frame and have a set of Physical/ Mathematical
laws to create everything
And if we find this God’s Absolute House
then we can understand Cod’s Physical Laws
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Has God known the formula: E=Mc^2 ?
If God has known the formula why HE / SHE /IT
didn't write it in His Bible?
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The people created a God.
No one knows what the external characteristics
of this God are, a God who made himself known
with the name " I am who I am ".
Is it enough for us in the XXIc ?
Why didn’t the formula E=Mc^2 write in the Bible?
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Each religion uses a system of symbols
(images, metaphors, ancient myths and legends ,
beautiful stories) to explain its truth.
But Bernard Shaw wisely remarked :
“ There is only one religion,
although there are a hundred versions of it.”
It means that the source of all religion is one.
And I try to prove this idea with the formulas and laws of
physics. I don’t invent new formulas. I use simple formulas
which ,maybe, every man knows from school.
Is it possible? Is it enough?
Yes. Because the evolution goes from simple to the complex.
So, in the beginning we can use simple formulas and laws.
For this purpose I explain what the first law of Universe is,
and second law is and ...........etc.
Step by step I create a logical system of the Universe.
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Science and Religion: Is there a conflict ?
Or maybe:
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
/ Albert Einstein. /
Or maybe:
All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree.
/ Albert Einstein. /
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Science and Religion: Is there any conflict?
Or maybe there isn’t any conflict.
Religion or Physics ? Faith or Knowledge ?
Or maybe our stupidity asks these questions.
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If I were God, I would give chance to Human
to understand who I am by analyzing the physical
formulas, equations and laws. Because to create Everything
I need them. So, logically, catching the thread of the physics
Human can understand Me and My Work.
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
creationists = right wing nuts; global warming alarmist = left wing nuts. right or left, both sides are full of nuts and kooks. NO to Jerry Falwell & Mullah Omar, and NO to Algore & Copenhagen!
This is not a debate at all, this is a show for Atheists. This was just a bash, and "I hate you!" Christian bashing party. All the Atheists did was poke fun of Christians, the Bible and most of all God. Their judgment will be swift, and not by the words of God's mouth that send them to judgment, but by their own mouths.
member. 
