Peter Robinson interviews Fresno State Classicist Bruce Thornton about his new book Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow Suicide.
In his new book, Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow Motion Suicide, Bruce Thornton asserts that Europe has turned its back on the Western tradition to which it owes its greatness. It has abandoned pride in the nation, discarded traditional Christianity, and, in so doing, is without unifying values, ideals, and beliefs.
But if Europe is still democratic, and if it still embraces the free market, why should anyone care that Judaeo-Christian religious beliefs are slipping away. The answer lies in the coinciding rise of radical Islam- Hoover Institution
Peter M. Robinson is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, where he writes about business and politics, edits the Hoover Institution's quarterly journal, the Hoover Digest, and hosts Hoover's television program, "Uncommon Knowledge."
Robinson is also the author of three books: How Ronald Reagan Changed My Life; It's My Party: A Republican's Messy Love Affair with the GOP; and the best-selling business book Snapshots from Hell: The Making of an MBA.
Bruce S. Thornton is a classicist at California State University, Fresno. He is a frequent guest on talk radio shows across the United States and appeared regularly on ABC's Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher. Thornton is a regular contributor to the popular, conservative website www.CaliforniaRepublic.org and has written several books.
Fresno State Classicist Bruce Thornton argues that the spike in Muslim immigration to Europe and their high rate of birth compared to that of native Europeans will cause a seismic demographic shift, threatening the stability of western culture.
Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.Second smallest continent on Earth. It is bordered by the Arctic Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean, and the Mediterranean, Black, and Caspian seas. The continent's generally accepted eastern boundary runs along the Ural Mountains and the Emba (Zhem) River of Kazakhstan. Its area includes numerous islands, archipelagoes, and peninsulas. Indented by bays, fjords, and seas, continental Europe's irregular coastline is about 24,000 mi (38,000 km) long. Area (approximate, including European Russia): 4,000,000 sq mi (10,400,000 sq km). Population (2007 est.): 700,000,000. The greater part of Europe combines low elevations with low relief; about three-fifths of the land is below 600 ft (180 m) above sea level, and another one-third is between 600 and 3,000 ft (180 and 900 m). The highest points are in the mountain systems crossing the southern part of the continent, including the Pyrenees, Alps, Apennines, Carpathians, and Balkan mountains. A well-watered continent with many rivers, Europe has few sizable lakes. Glaciers cover a significant area, mostly in the north. Roughly one-third of Europe is arable, with much of that land devoted to cereals, principally wheat and barley. About one-third is forested. Europe was the first of the world's regions to develop a modern economy based on commercial agriculture and industry, and it remains one of the world's major industrial regions, with average annual income per capita among the world's highest. The people of Europe constitute about one-tenth of the world's population. Most of the continent's native languages belong to either the Romance, Germanic, or Slavic language groups. Europe's population is mostly Christian.
Christianity did not create Europe. Europe was created in opposition to christianity. Giordano Bruno was burned by catholic inquisition. The ideas of the renaissance and enlightenment made Europe great... Democracy, human dignity, universal human rights, were all developed in opposition to religious belief... So the lack of religious faith, i.e. faith without evidence is a positive sign...
Originally Posted by Invictus_88
when we still frequently hear religious rhetoric from political leaders of both the American ruling figures
Nonsense. The only religious rhetoric you hear from American politics is largely in the form of news stories generated by the left wing media to either bolster their favored candidates with progressive spiritual credentials, or to diminish the disfavored ones with the label of fundamentalism.
Otherwise, when was the last time you heard an American politician make a speech similar to the ones made by your average middle eastern leader on a regular basis? Achmadinejad, for instance, at the UN? I thought I was listening to a sermon.
Only leftist American politicians are safe to use religion in America. And it has to be liberation theology. Black liberation especially.
Who do you speak for? Not me. Not many people. You sound like a hypocrite. You don't believe in freedom of expression at all. Each of us can decide for ourselves how our faith meshes with the modern world. It's not for you to decide. You don't pay my bills.
Nationalism creates dead concepts that create dead peoples. In the case of the Central bankers IMF for example stirring up mess is business.
Again as we have learned from the past century the game that the central bankers committed and walk away. It seems they are doing the same game 2008.
Nationalism is a dead concept in the postmodern world because it is a bankrupt concept that serves no purpose for
the individual. Nationalism like all isms demands that you accept, like and support whatever your ism stands for.
We like to believe that we are free to think what we want here. we dont have to like our governments and since
living in the same place has absolutley no bearing on weather or not you like them. Ideas and culture know no borders
and since the inovation of airplanes the world has gotten closer. Locality does not equal shared values.
Religion is a dead concept in the postmodern world because it is a bankrupt concept that serves no purpose for
the individual. we believe in the future and values. The unifying force in Europe is various forms of humanism.
Christianity is just another vehicle for the orwellian nightmare of Iran, North Korea and soon
the united States will revert to be a theocratic third world country.
Religious beliefs is incompatible with democracy because democracy requires discussion and there
is none when no argument can sway you which is the basic practical function of religion.
In europe we believe in democracy, we believe in freedom of expression and thought and we live
those values by not subscribing to religious creeds to any greater length (as far as we can throw them)
What is further embarrissing is his attempt at sounding profound by qouting plato and socrates.
I read "the state" and "dialogous" I also read books written AFTER these.
This person is just being ignorant trying to impose his dogmatic values and his closeminded worldview on the postmodern world
with which he is completly out of touch.