Brother Guy Consolmagno discusses God's Mechanics.
With wry humor, Brother Guy Consolmagno shows how he not only believes in God but gives religion an honored place alongside science in his life. His book God's Mechanics: How Scientists and Engineers Make Sense of Religion offers an engaging look at how - and why - scientists and those with technological leanings can hold profound, "unprovable" religious beliefs while working in highly empirical fields.
Vatican astronomer Guy Consolmagno is a Jesuit brother with advanced degrees from MIT and the University of Arizona. A highly respected planetary scientist whose research focuses on meteorites, asteroids, and dwarf planets, Consolmagno is the author or co-author of numerous books and publications, including Brother Astronomer and Turn Left at Orion. He even has an asteroid named in his honor (4597 Consolmagno, known to its friends as "Little Guy").
He has served as chair of the Division for Planetary Sciences of the American Astronomical Society and is a past president of Commission 16 (Planets and Moons) of the International Astronomical Union- Grace Cathedral
Bio
Brother Guy Consolmagno
Guy Consolmagno, born September 19, 1952, in Detroit, Michigan, USA, obtained his bachelor of science in 1974 and master of science in 1975 in Earth and Planetary Sciences from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and his Ph.D. in Planetary Science from the University of Arizona in 1978. From 1978-80 he was a postdoctoral fellow and lecturer at the Harvard College Observatory, and from 1980-1983 continued as postdoc and lecturer at MIT.
In 1983 he left MIT to join the US Peace Corps, where he served for two years in Kenya teaching physics and astronomy. Upon his return to the US in 1985 he became an assistant professor of physics at Lafayette College, in Easton, Pennsylvania, where he taught until his entry into the Jesuit order in 1989. He took vows as a Jesuit brother in 1991, and studied philosophy and theology at Loyola University, Chicago, and physics at the University of Chicago, before his assignment to the Vatican Observatory in 1993.
In spring 2000 he held the MacLean Chair for Visiting Jesuit Scholars at St. Joseph's University, Philadelphia, and in 2006-2007 held the Loyola Chair at Fordham University, New York. He has also been a visiting scientist at the Goddard Space Flight Center and a visiting professor at Loyola College, Baltimore, and Loyola University, Chicago.
Consolmagno has served on the governing boards of the Meteoritical Society; the International Astronomical Union's (IAU) Division III, Planetary Systems Science (secretary, 2000 - present) and Commission 16, Moons and Planets (president, 2003-2006); and the American Astronomical Society Division for Planetary Sciences (chair, 2006-2007).
He has coauthored five astronomy books: Turn Left at Orion (with Dan M. Davis; Cambridge University Press, 1989); Worlds Apart (with Martha W. Schaefer; Prentice Hall, 1993); The Way to the Dwelling of Light (U of Notre Dame Press, 1998); Brother Astronomer (McGraw Hill, 2000); and God's Mechanics (Jossey-Bass, 2007).
Dr. Consolmagno is curator of the Vatican meteorite collection in Castel Gandolfo, one of the largest in the world. His research explores the connections between meteorites and asteroids, and the origin and evolution of small bodies in the solar system. In 1996, he spent six weeks collecting meteorites with an NSF-sponsored team on the blue ice of Antarctica, and in 2000 he was honored by the IAU for his contributions to the study of meteorites and asteroids with the naming of asteroid 4597 Consolmagno.
Research: Dr. Consolmagno studies the nature and evolution of small bodies in the solar system. His work in the 1970s on the moons of the outer solar system predicted many of the features later discovered by the Voyager and Galileo spacecraft, including the first published suggestion of Europan sub-crustal oceans with the possibility of life. Models for the geochemical evolution of lunar basalts and basaltic meteorites eventually led to the identification, on geochemical grounds, of asteroid Vesta as the parent body of the eucrite, diogenite, and howardite meteorites.�His doctoral thesis in 1978 on the role of electromagnetic forces in chemical fractionations of the early solar system pioneered the field of gravito-electrodynamics, the behavior of dust subjected to both gravitational and electromagnetic forces, and he was the first person to apply this concept to describe the dynamics of Jupiter's dust ring.
Geophysical research in the late 1980s to mid-1990s included mapping tectonic features on the surfaces of outer planet icy satellites to correlate the orientation of these features with possible internal stresses, and applying electromagnetic theory to the problem of detecting an ocean brine under the ice crust of Europa. He was also part of the world-wide campaigns to observe the impact of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 into Jupiter in 1994 and mutual events during the 1995 Saturn ring plane crossing.
Present research is centered on understanding the origin of moons, meteorites, asteroids, dwarf planets, and Trans-Neptunian Objects (TNOs). One continuing project is measuring the density, porosity, and magnetic properties of meteorites, with applications to understanding the lithification of meteorites and the structure of their asteroidal parent bodies. Details of his technique can be found at this PSR page. He is also involved in telescope observations measuring the spectra of small bodies in the outer solar system.
Rev. Alan Jones
Alan Jones, Ph.D., has been dean of Grace Cathedral in San Francisco since 1985.
Jones was formerly the director of the Center for Christian Spirituality and Stephen F. Bayne Professor of Ascetical Theology at General Theological Seminary in New York City. Born and educated in England, Jones was also on the staff of Trinity Institute of Wall Street's Trinity Church. He became a citizen of the United States in 1975.
Jones is the author of several books, most notably, Soul Making, The Desert Way of Spirituality, Passion for Pilgrimage and most recently, The Soul's Journey: Exploring the Three Passages of the Spiritual Life with Dante as a Guide. He is widely known as a gifted preacher and travels throughout the world preaching, lecturing, and leading retreats.
Science and Religion.
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What is the vacuum?
Answer.
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‘It might even give us some ground to speculate that
the vacuum itself (and hence the universe) is ‘conscious’.
/ Book ‘The quantum self ’ page 208. by Danah Zohar. /
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‘If we were looking for something that we could conceive
of as God within the universe of the new physics, this ground
state, coherent quantum vacuum might be a good place to start.’
/ Book ‘The quantum self ’ page 208. by Danah Zohar. /
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danah_Zohar
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Does God So Love the Multiverse?
/ By Don N. Page . /
Monotheistic religions such as Judaism and Christianity affirm
that God loves all humans and created them in His image.
However, we have learned from Darwin that we were not created
separately from other life on earth. Some Christians opposed Darwinian
evolution because it undercut certain design arguments for the
existence of God. Today there is the growing idea that the fine-tuned
constants of physics might be explained by a multiverse with
very many different sets of constants of physics.
Some Christians oppose the multiverse for similarly undercutting other
design arguments for the existence of God. However, undercutting
one argument does not disprove its conclusion.
Here I argue that multiverse ideas, though not automatically
a solution to the problems of physics, deserve serious consideration
and are not in conflict with Christian theology as I see it.
Although this paper as a whole is {\it addressed} primarily
to Christians in cosmology and others interested in the relation
between the multiverse and theism, it should be of {\it interest}
to a wider audience.
Proper subsets of this paper are addressed to other Christians,
to other theists, to other cosmologists, to other scientists,
and to others interested in the multiverse and theism.
Does God So Love the Multiverse?
/ By Don N. Page . /
http://arxiv.org/abs/0801.0246
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And I ask: Does God So Love the Infinity ?
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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Physics and Theology.
About creators of God.
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Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit
If triangles made a God they would give him three sides
/ Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters, 1721 /
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If physicists made a God they would give him
concrete physical parameters.
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Which parameters they can be ?
We know that God is something Infinite.
What is ‘INFINITY’ ? Nobody knows.
The conception of ‘ Infinity’ we can find not only in Bible
but in Physics too. Are they equal ? Are they different ?
I think that ‘INFINITY’ is ‘INFINITY’ and can be only one
for every knowledge, for every meaning.
I think there isn’t special ‘INFINITY’ for Bible and special
‘INFINITY’ for Physics. I think the conception ‘INFINITY’
is equal for every part of Science.
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Again and again the ‘INFINITY’ appears in many physical
and mathematical problems.
/ Part Physics: Theoretical applications of physical infinity .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity /
It means that ‘INFINITY’ is some kind of reality. (!)
Does Physicists meet God In the Infinite ? (!)
Does God live in the INFINITE ? ( !)
To understand this we need to find the answers to the questions:
1) What is / are the physical parameters of the ‘INFINITY’ ?
2) What is connection between the infinity and the concreteness ?
3) What is connection between infinity and quality ?
4) How to explain the unity and inconsistent character between
the infinity and the concreteness ?
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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I don't understand how anyone could agree with this guy in any way. newton was writing poetry? I took us to the moon however. Dawkins fundementalist techie? These people just don't want to understand that religion is totaly obsolete and we can live without it.
Religion, not science, is what was 'invented' by humans. Science is what is observed and measured by humans. This is why science changes and why religion stays the same.
Science changes in response to new and larger datasets and methods of extending our 'eye' into new locations. Religion , most notably Catholicism, does not change because it is based on a narrative that cannot be modified. This is its attraction to most humans, who want something unchanging to hang onto.
Engineers, who are not scientists, may be drawn to fundamental religion because they like straight lines, simple, universal solutions and reliable assumptions. Astronauts and test pilots are also drawn to religion, as their death rate is astoundingly high.
Scientists are seldom fundamentalists because they dwell on the fuzzy edges, splitting hairs, finding problems and anomalies. Also, they face few physical risks in ordinary life.
Also, people who casually bash Houston are never as smart as they thing they are.
Brother Guy Consolmagno represents the best of educated Catholicism. If he was the model of all religious people in the world, religion would no longer be a problem. OTOH, Brother Guy style religions would also be equivalent to free country club memberships for all, and thus completely irrelevant.
For the first time it appears to me that fanatic religious suicide bombers and fundamentalist Creationist are the only things that give religions any importance, whatsoever. It's not a good importance, of course, but at least it's something to get excited about. The lukewarm philosophical hand holding offered here, for sure isn't.
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Originally Posted by jglyon
"if religion disappeared, we wouldn't know there was anything wrong with war."
totally untrue. our morality is written in our genes.
And then, Who or What wrote it there?
I wish we could have learned more. The beauty of Genesis, of "the poem" Guy speaks about, is how adaptable it is. Flat-earthers before Galileo claimed it as Truth, so do creationists today who have no problems with a sun-centered solar system. In this way, it describes something magical (i.e. Creation) in terms whose parameters change over time but whose wonder has not.
How to Accurately Interpret the Bible, After Accurate Observation
Nowhere does the Bible say the earth is flat. It does say God hangs the earth on nothing. It does speak of the circle of the earth. And other things science only "recently" discovered. And Genesis is not poetry, it is prose or narrative. Any scholar worth his salt will tell you the author (probably Moses) meant to communicate Genesis to mean just what it says. One example: yom, Heb. for day, always means a solar day any time it is used to measure in the context, such as "evening and morning, the second day," etc. These are just truthful facts. And the big bang? Oh yah, they say they verified that due to static, after they cleaned off the bird poo, from a shoe-horn shaped little shed-like building in New Jersey, I think it is. The mind of the natural man. So naive, among other things. One could go on and on on so many false assumptions forced into physical things. (fossils, distant starlight and time, etc. etc. etc.) Again, these are truthful facts. This is so.