Author Jonah Goldberg discusses Liberal Fascism. Panelists include Michael Ledeen, Resident Scholar with the American Enterprise Institute; Fred Siegel, Professor of History at Cooper Union; and Ronald Radosh, Adjunct Fellow with Hudson Institute. The discussion is moderated by Yuval Levin, Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.
In his controversial new book, Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning (Doubleday) Jonah Goldberg offers a startling new perspective on the theories and practices that define fascist politics. Reaching beyond familiar myths, he reminds us that the original fascists were men of the left, and that liberals from Woodrow Wilson to FDR to Hillary Clinton have advocated some policies and principles remarkably similar to those of European fascism, including an aversion to the free market, and the promise of free health care and a generous pension system. Do these striking parallels mean that today's liberals are genocidal maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order? Of course not. Yet it is hard to deny, Goldberg argues, that modern progressivism and classical fascism share the same intellectual roots.
Of the book former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says: "Jonah Goldberg's Liberal Fascism will enrage many people on the left, but his dire thesis deserves serious attention.... Goldberg will lead you to new understanding and force you to think deeply." Following Goldberg's remarks, a panel of experts will present their commentary on the book- Hudson Institute
Bio
Jonah Goldberg
Jonah Goldberg is an American conservative author and commentator. Goldberg is known for his contributions on politics and culture to National Review Online, where he is the editor-at-large. He is the author of Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, from Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning.
He also frequently appears on television, on such shows as Good Morning America, Crossfire, Nightline, Hardball with Chris Matthews, Larry King Live, Your World with Neil Cavuto and most recently The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.
Michael Ledeen
Michael Ledeen is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and a contributing editor to National Review. Ledeen was a founding member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), and he serves on the JINSA Board of Advisors.
Yuval Levin
Yuval Levin is a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center (EPPC). An expert in domestic policy, science and technology policy, and bioethics, he also serves as director of EPPC's Bioethics and American Democracy Program and senior editor of The New Atlantis magazine.
He has served as associate director of the White House Domestic Policy Council and Executive Director of the President's Council on Bioethics. His essays and articles have appeared in numerous publications including The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Commentary, The Weekly Standard, The Public Interest, and others, and he is the author of Tyranny of Reason: The Origins and Consequences of the Social Scientific Outlook.
Ronald Radosh
Ronald Radosh is currently an Adjunct Senior Fellow at the Hudson Institute in Washington, D.C., and professor of history emeritus at Queensborough Community College of the City University of New York. His commentaries on the Rosenbergs and other topics have appeared in The New Republic, The Weekly Standard and National Review, and the blog Frontpagemag.com.
Fred Siegel
Fred Siegel is a senior fellow at the Progressive Policy Institute (a center-left think tank closely affiliated with the Democratic Leadership Council) who focuses on urban policy and politics. He also serves as a professor of history and the humanities at Cooper Union and is a contributor to numerous publications, including The New York Post (where he has a weekly column), The New Republic, The Atlantic Monthly, Commonwealth and Tikkun.
Author Jonah Goldberg claims that the political left have appropriated the word 'fascism' to mean politically evil. In Liberal Fascism, Goldberg argues many types of fascism exist and that fewer people have been killed under fascist regimes than have been under socialist regimes throughout history.
Philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state's authority, and harsh suppression of dissent. Martial virtues are celebrated, while liberal and democratic values are disparaged. Fascism arose during the 1920s and '30s partly out of fear of the rising power of the working classes; it differed from contemporary communism (as practiced under Joseph Stalin) by its protection of business and landowning elites and its preservation of class systems. The leaders of the fascist governments of Italy (192243), Germany (193345), and Spain (193975)Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, and Francisco Francowere portrayed to their publics as embodiments of the strength and resolve necessary to rescue their nations from political and economic chaos. Japanese fascists (193645) fostered belief in the uniqueness of the Japanese spirit and taught subordination to the state and personal sacrifice. See alsototalitarianism; neofascism.
The Hudson Institute, a neoconservative think tank, is supported by Eli Lilly and Company, Monsanto Company, DuPont, Dow-Elanco, Sandoz, Ciba-Geigy, ConAgra, Cargill, and Procter & Gamble.
Hitler's NSDAP was bankrolled by Thyssen, Krupp, I.G. Farben, A.E.G., DAPAG, Royal Dutch Shell, etc..
Can you see a pattern here?
These people are giving a textbook example of the word "Doublespeak".
I stopped looking after 10 minutes because every person that has studied the history of fascism knows that the socialist element in the NSDAP was eradicated in 1934 with the 'Nacht der langen Messer', when Hitler moved against the SA.
It is astonishing how Liberals have the testicular fortitude to leave a comment like yours without any argument whatsoever and feel compelled to do so for some reason. Explain why this book and this conversation is dishonest or just shut up.
Indeed you are educated,but your statement of fascism emerges from Nitszche is wrong.
Nitszche was oppose to all fascist schemes. The catholic indoctrination is the birth of all fascist thinking. what evolve in the aftermath is nothing more than parasites of this I,m and you are not unless you believe unto me.
Indeed! and I would like to make 2 comments:
1 - Leo Strauss' so called "brush with fascism" was nothing of the sort. He happened to have been a student of C. Schmitt, who was interesting to him not for his post in the nazi goverment (the nazis did not yet exist) but his critical methods. Strauss' youthful politics was secular zionism which, if anything, was left leaning, as the initial character of the state of Israel suggests.
2 - The idea that Fascism is essentially lefist is true. But - and to continue to make a retorical rather than a purely theoretical argument - even truer is that it is even more "progressive" than Communism. Communism, one might say (and to abreviate grossly), emerges from Rousseau, or what Leo Strauss called the "first wave of Modernism", while Fascism emerges from Nitszche, what Leo Strauss calls the "second wave of Modernism". The second wave, a reaction to the first wave, in some ways opposes it, but in other ways radicalizes it. The first wave is highly theoretical, "non-incarnate" one might say. The second wave, however, is more incarnate. In the the fascistic "return" to the "folk" we get the first practical application of that mystical credo which underlies contemporay identity politics and the "authentisity" movements (including the baroque movement in music), as well as, strangely, multiculturalism, which is happy to ignore, say the practice slavery, or the oppression of women, in order to insure the multiculturist lovefest.
I am sure that most of the multiculturists do not intend to exterminate the jews but they don't mind if some of thier "multi" cultures do.
This discussion conveniently leaves out the connection between Fascists, Nazis, and the industrialists of the day.
It's all a bunch of right-wing nonsense. There are so many holes in the argument(s) presented here it's not even worth going into.
An interesting panel would have included Naomi Klein along with several others. Then there would have been some sparks. Instead, we are presented with droning old white guys patting each other on the back about how "correct" their view of histroy is.
And it's not correct. Not in any sense.
The view of history presented here is selective, one-sided, and manipulative.
End of post.
Jonah -- should America be hit by another bloodbath so Democrats can "Inherit the Wind"? Which city?
Ledeen, referring to public/Congress reluctant about war
"of course, we can always get lucky. Stunning events from outside can providentially awaken the enterprise from its growing torpor, and demonstrate the need for reversal, as the devastating Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 so effectively aroused the U.S. from its soothing dreams of permanent neutrality."
Yeah, we sure got lucky on Sept 11, didn't we. God's Providence was showered down on us, along with flame, concrete dust, and jet fuel.