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Mitt Romney’s Address on Faith in America

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DarrinTaylor Avatar
DarrinTaylor
Posts: 2
Posted: 05.19.11, 08:42 PM
rPetty where do you get this nonsense from? Many of the founders were secular. This is basic history here. Anyways the theists agreed to a secular nation despite their beliefs, because they understood the importance of keeping that nonsense from being imposed on people. Any inclusion of a religious belief in government affairs is by definition imposing that nonsense on others thus inhibting their right to be free from such nonsense.

If you want to believe in magic that's your problem, but leave me out of it.
babylonbrother Avatar
babylonbrother
Posts: 1
Posted: 11.06.09, 02:53 PM
This is frankly grotesque!!!!!
This man is talking utter nonsense, and noone is pressuring him? Any man that believes these fairytales should NOT be in charge of the nuclear arsenal...
This is horrifying!
anselmiano Avatar
anselmiano
Posts: 6
Posted: 09.26.09, 09:02 PM
Good speech, close but no cigar. He would have been well advised to publicly distance himself from at least some troublesome substantive beliefs of the Mormon church. For instance, it would have made him a hit among the key religious right block to reject Mormonism founder Joseph Smith's statement that all protestant religions were false and "an abomination" in the sight of God. He could have also rejected the Mormon ban on granting the priesthood to black people, which would have endeared him to many minority groups. Even Mormons are beginning to acknowledge these quirks in their history as mistakes. Mitt took a misguided feeling of loyalty to an extreme that might well have cost him the Presidency.
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rayzor1967
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Posted: 11.20.08, 10:26 AM
rpetty: Wrong, wrong, wrong... The absolute separation of church and state is essential to the free democracy that we enjoy. There is no place for religious dogma in government affairs. "God" is a very universal term that can mean different things to different people. Just because you believe in God doesn't mean that you are a part of, or have the agenda of a religious organization. The founding fathers understood that, therefore making the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence the pristine documents that they are and always will be. I get so tired of people voicing the false claim that we were founded as a Christian nation. Far from it. We were founded as a free nation... Free from any type of religious or social tyranny. By the way, you don't need religion to practice good ethics. That has been proven time and time again. Some of the most unethical people today and throughout history have been "religious" people. I agree that this was a good speech and I thought Romney would have made a good candidate for president. Not because of his "Christian values", but because he is an intelligent business man. Written by a practicing Christian.
rpetty Avatar
rpetty
Posts: 5
Posted: 04.25.08, 02:53 AM
Great speech.
Great speech. This was Romney's best speech to date. Had he shown the same vigor previously, the race might have been substantially different.

@rkzenrage-- Separation of church and state does not demand the exclusion thereof. The Constitution simply prohibits Congress from establishing religion, and from prohibiting the free exercise of religion.

The very existence of our Constitution is due to God fearing men. It is at best a red herring, and at worse, completely disingenuous to argue that simply because the word "God" does not appear in the text of the Constitution that God was not fundamental to its creation. As the Supreme Court of Florida said in 1950: "Different species of democracy have existed for more than 2,000 years, but democracy as we know it has never existed among the unchurched. A people unschooled about the sovereignty of God, the ten commandments and the ethics of Jesus, could never have evolved the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. There is not one solitary fundamental principle of our democratic policy that did not stem directly from the basic moral concepts as embodied in the Decalog and the ethics of Jesus . . . No one knew this better than the Founding Fathers."
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John Schlismann
Posts: 2
Posted: 04.24.08, 11:33 PM
It's too bad Mitt Romney didn't get the republican nomination. This excellent speech on faith in America was one of his best.
rkzenrage Avatar
rkzenrage
Posts: 1
Posted: 04.23.08, 10:57 PM
The separation of church and state in all things is the only acceptable option.
Both the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are clear on this point. (Neither of which have ANY mention of god)
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