A Special Benefit for YouthAIDS: Focus on Youth, AIDS, and Music with Wyclef Jean, Stephen Lewis and Dan Glickman. Kate Roberts moderates.
In this, its third year, Aspen Ideas Festival once again gathers scientists, artists, politicians, historians, educators, activists, and other great thinkers around some of the most important and fascinating ideas of our time. As these thinkers present their provocative ideas, they engage a sophisticated and highly motivated audience.
The Honorable Dan Glickman
Dan Glickman is a senior fellow at the Bipartisan Policy Center, and he co-chairs its Commission on Political Reform, Democracy Project, Nutrition and Physical Activity Initiative and Task Force on Defense Budget and Strategy. Rep. Glickman is the executive director of the Aspen Institute Congressional Program—a nongovernmental, nonpartisan educational program for members of the United States Congress. Previously, Rep. Glickman served as the U.S. secretary of agriculture from March 1995 until January 2001. Before his appointment, he represented the 4th Congressional District of Kansas for 18 years, and was an active member of the House Judiciary Committee, chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and acted as a leading congressional expert on general aviation policy.
Born Neluset Wyclef Jean on Oct. 17, 1972, in Haiti, Wyclef Jean is a Grammy-winning musician and record producer.
Jean moved with his family to Brooklyn, N.Y., before moving again to northern New Jersey. In 1994, he married Fusha designer Marie Claudinette. In 2005, they adopted their daughter, Angelina Claudinelle Jean. The couple renewed their vows in August 2009.
Jean’s musical breakthrough was as part of the Fugees, a three-member group that included Lauryn Hill and Prakazrel “Pras” Michel. Jean is Pras’ cousin and a fellow Haitian immigrant. The Fugees’ debut album, Blunted on Reality, peaked at No. 49 on the U.S. Hot 100 and sold 2 million-plus copies worldwide. The follow-up album, The Score, sold more than 18 million copies worldwide, eventually becoming a multiplatinum, Grammy-winning album.
Jean has released eight solo albums since 1997, with another due to be released in 2010. He has collaborated with artists from Mary J. Blige, Timbaland and Celia Cruz to Cyndi Lauper, Kenny Rogers and Earth, Wind and Fire. He also covered the Creedence Clearwater Revival song “Fortunate Son” for the soundtrack of the 2004 remake of The Manchurian Candidate and wrote the song “Million Voices” for the film Hotel Rwanda.
In 2005, Jean was the main force behind establishing the Yéle Haiti foundation. In its first year of operation, the foundation, with funding by Comcel, provided scholarships to 3,600 children in Gonaïves, Haiti, after the devastation by Tropical Storm Jeanne. Since then, the foundation has grown its programs to include mobilizing community, delivering food and water, offering grants to smaller NGOs, training teachers, repairing schools, planting trees, feeding children in schools, organizing sports teams, supporting arts programming, and giving scholarships to 4,500 children and a dozen college students, among many others.
His uncle, political activist, journalist and diplomat Raymond Alcide Joseph, has been the Haitian ambassador to the United States since 2005. Together, Jean and Joseph appealed for international aid following the devastating January 2010 Haiti earthquake.
On Feb. 26, 2010, Jean won the Vanguard trophy from the NAACP for his humanitarian efforts on behalf of his native Haiti. Jean received his award at the 41st annual NAACP Image Awards and dedicated it to “all of those people you all don’t see working on the ground in Haiti and in America.”
The following night, Feb. 27, the Harvard Foundation of Harvard University named Jean its 2010 Artist of the Year. He received the group’s most prestigious medal at the annual Cultural Rhythms award ceremony.
Since the January 2010 Haiti earthquake, Yéle Haiti has redoubled its efforts in Haiti, working with 34 tent camps and other communities across the country. Included among the thousands of relief items Yéle has distributed are 84,000 hot meals, 14,400 items of canned and packaged food, 2 million gallons of bulk water (soon expanding to 1 million gallons a month), 32,850 bottles of water, 270,310 nutrition bars (donated by Clif Bar and Nature’s Path), more than 2,500 care bags with personal toiletries and assorted items, 8,455 items of new and used clothing and more than 1,500 pairs of new and used shoes, 1,000 pairs of new boots (donated by Timberland), 2,000 pairs of new shoes (donated by TOMS Shoes), 1,240 windup flashlights (donated by Eton through the efforts of Timberland) and 2,500 solar radios (donated by Eton through the efforts of Timberland).
In addition, Yéle has launched Yéle Vert, a reforestation program co-sponsored by Timberland; will further expand Yéle Corps, a jobs-creation and vocational-training program; has plans to build Yéle Kitchen, a jobs-creation and vocational-training program that will also provide food for the needy; and is in the beginning stages of providing temporary housing that has been designed to withstand hurricanes and earthquakes.
On Aug. 5, 2010, Jean relinquished his leadership role in the organization. The following day, he announced that he will make a bid for the presidency of Haiti in the country’s upcoming November election.
Stephen Lewis is a professor in Global Health, faculty of Social Sciences, at McMaster University and is co-director of AIDS-Free World, a new international AIDS advocacy organization. He is also the chair of the board of the Stephen Lewis Foundation in Canada.
Lewis was previously the UN Secretary-General's Special Envoy for HIV/AIDS in Africa from June 2001 until the end of 2006. From 1995 to 1999, Lewis was deputy executive director of UNICEF at the organization's global headquarters in New York. From 1984 through 1988, Lewis was Canada's ambassador to the United Nations. Lewis holds twenty-five honorary degrees from Canadian universities and is a companion of the Order of Canada, Canada's highest honor for lifetime achievement.
Kate Roberts is the founder and director of YouthAIDS, a global HIV/AIDS prevention initiative implemented by the nonprofit organization Population Services International (PSI). She also serves as Vice President to PSI. In 2001 Kate founded YouthAIDS, a global education and prevention initiative of PSI, that uses media and pop culture, to stop the spread of HIV/AIDS and reach 600 million young people in more than 60 countries with life-saving messages, products, services and care. Roberts has enlisted the support of top celebrities and donors such as YouthAIDS Global Ambassador Ashley Judd, YouthAIDS ambassadors Wynonna Judd, Salma Hayek, Cindy Crawford, Bono, and Ludacris, among many others. She was named one of the World Economic Forumâ€™s â€œYoung Global Leaders of the World 2007,â€ and this past year, Roberts launched the marketing campaign with ALDO Shoes called "Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil," which has raised millions of dollars and reached 1.5 billion people in 25 countries.
Hello everyone, there is a lot of you out there; I can't really see any of you which is may be a goodthing. My name is Kitty Boone, I work for the Aspen Institute and I am very very delighted that youare all here tonight. When we were plotting the Ideas Festival this year we really wanted to createsomething of a town hall targeted at a younger audience of people who might be interested in issuesthat affect them directly. And I am very very thrilled to have a group of people here tonight talkingabout AIDS and the treatment of AIDS and the issues that affect millions of young people around theworld and I am very very thrilled to do this. As you all know this is benefit for YouthAIDS which wasfounded Kate Roberts who is our moderator tonight, who is also a Vice President of PopulationServices International. YouthAIDS has 6000 employees around the world dealing with AIDS incommunities and without any further adieu I am going to introduce Kate to introduce her panel. Thankyou all for coming. This is a benefit. All the proceeds tonight go to YouthAIDS, it's a very importantissue in the globe and Kate you are a phenomenon, thank you for coming.Thank you, thanks everybody, thank you Kitty and thank you to the Aspen Institute and thank you toBelly Up for hosting us. I will with no further adieu introduce to our very prestigious panel, I think weare going to have a very lively panel tonight, I am very excited. First of all to our left we have DanGlickman who became Chairman and CEO of the Motion Picture Association of America in 2004.Prior to that he was Director of the Institute of Politics at Harvard University's John F Kennedy Schoolof Government. From 95' to 2001, he served as a United States Secretary of Agriculture; SecretaryGlickman also served for 18 years in the US House of Representatives representing the fourthCongressional District of Kansas. He was a Member of the House Agriculture Committee, JudiciaryCommittee and the Science and Technology Committee. Well there is a lot of committees going onhere. In addition he chaired the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. A formal trialattorney at the US Securities and Exchange Commission, he was a partner and senior advisor to the lawfirm of Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld in Washington DC. Mr. Glickman also has worked withthe cast of Ocean's Thirteen to raise funding for the food program to the amount of $50 million. Thank you for being with us.Furthermore we have Dr. Stephen Lewis who is a professor in Global Health, faculty of Social Servicesat McMaster University and he is Co Director of AIDS Free World, a new International AIDSadvocacy organization. He is also the chair of the board of the Stephen Lewis Foundation in Canada.Mr. Lewis was previously the UN Secretary General's Special Envoy for HIV AIDS in Africa fromJune 2001 until the end of 2006. And I can assure you he is a legend. From 95' to 99' Dr. Lewis wasDeputy Executive Director of UNICEF at the organization's global headquarters in New York. From84' through to 85' Dr. Lewis was Canada's ambassador to the United Nations. Dr. Lewis holds 25honorary degrees from Canadian universities and as a Companion of the Order of Canada, Canada'shighest honor for Lifetime Achievement.And we have Wyclef Jean who is a rock star.Clef is also a good well Ambassador for Haiti. A multiple Grammy winning Award artist whom MTVdescribed as hip-hop's unofficial multicultural conscience Wyclef has redefined the term socialentrepreneur. From his groundbreaking recordings with the Fugees in the 90s, to his numerousPlatinum solo efforts from his spearheading of numerous charity efforts to his award winningproduction with artists such as Shakira, Destiny's Child, Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, CarlosSantana, the list goes on. Wyclef has always preached a message of oneness and understanding. Hisfoundation, The Yele Foundation uses music, sports and the media to reinforce projects that are makinga difference in education, health, environment, community development in his home country of Haiti.He works at the highest level and I have followed Clef's career over the years in charity. He has privatediscussions with the heads of the UN, World Bank and even major nations. He has unparalleled accesson the ground that he is seen as the Martin Luther King Junior. He was recently transformed to prisonin Haiti into a home for children, which Angelina Jolie has co funded. But basically Wyclef has fundedthe rest of his activities. I can say personally that Wyclef always turns up when he is asked. He hassupported YouthAIDS from the very beginning. He has also worked with the Clinton Foundation,Bono and Bobby Shriver, he is the real deal. And let me tell you, we are in for a rocking concert tonight.So to give you a little idea of what we will be talking about tonight. We are really going to focus on thetopic of HIV AIDS, but also in fighting poverty in general. We are talking about the power of celebrity.The AIDS pandemic icon obviously talk about has taken over 25 million lives so far, it's affectinganother 40 million. 7000 young people become infected everyday. Over the past few years we haveseen dramatic campaigns such as Red, I am sure you are familiar with The One campaign andYouthAIDS that have harnessed the power of celebrity tact into Hollywood. Companies such as GAP,Motorola, Aldo Shoes, Keals and Giorgio Armani have developed social programs that havefeatured celebrities, who donate their time and image, there have been songs created, probably the mosthistorical was written by Quincy Jones and Lionel Richie and Michael Jackson; "We Are The World"."We Are The World" raised over $90 million and the money went to fight poverty in Africa. Morerecently Bono and Alicia Keys have written songs and there have been various film projects and mediaprojects over the years and we are going to discuss tonight how affective they were.Bob Geldof of 20 years ago set the stage with Live Aid. The whole project raised $350 million for aidin Africa. The question is what is the role of celebrity? Does it work? Personally I have seen over theyears of creating YouthAIDS that having celebrity support has really helped us to develop our brandand cut through the clutter to honest corporations and funding. Our campaign with Aldo raised $3million, but more to the point it reached 1.5 billion people with its message. We brought on stars suchChristina Aguilera, Ludacris and Avril Levine and of course Wyclef has helped us also to reachmillions of young people around the world through voice and lyrics. Wyclef told me here on the waythat rap in his country is the strongest tool to change behavior of amongst young people. Moreovercelebrities make the world go round. We see the tabloids every single day. The strongest tool one ofthe strongest tools for behavior change among youth is using social mobilization and getting peopletheir respect to talk about the issues.Having Ashley Judd as our global ambassador I have seen first hand how she has managed to get infront of members of Congress, change policy and also help us to create major media projects that havebeen aired around the world. She has also helped open the doors to private investors of thecorporations. If you look at the latest copy of Vanity Fair with Chris Rock on the cover you will see thepower of celebrity. Bono has edited that magazine and it's an absolute piece of art. He is highlighting inthe issue the grassroots efforts that are so vital to fight this issue. So I am very excited to introduce Dan Glickman. Thank you.Okay thank you very much. I am honored to be here I am going to keep my remarks short so Wyclefcan perform and you can see the person you really came to see.Did you okay. I remember Wyclef, when I was a member of Congress, I went down to Nashville onetime and they had a country music affair and a bunch of members of Congress were there and I like tosing sometimes and so my colleagues asked me to sing and I sang at her house. And after I was doneshe got up and she had a very kind of thing to say to me, she said "I think, you should keep your day injob congressman", so I am not really good at this. But I will just make a couple of quick points. One isthat I think all people of means, whether they are celebrity or non celebrity, have a special obligation toshare their wealth and their privilege if they have achieved that in society. And I think celebrities are nodifferent. But I would say that celebrity is not necessarily a ticket to sainthood. There are somecelebrities that we see that the media have made in celebrities recently; that I am not sure make theterm celebrity a proud concept. I mean I do not know Paris Hilton, I don't expect I would know her inmy life, but she has become a celebrity in the end. I am not sure that she has set forward the cause ofcelebrity hood. And I think there are others that don't necessarily give the entertainment industry agood name. On the other hand there are an awful lot of people like Wyclef and some others that will bementioned that do powerful and amazing work for the needy.The second point I would make is that by and large our country, when you go outside the UnitedStates, is known not because of who the President of the United States is but is known because ofentertainment and sports figures. They are the ones that people can identify that they are Americans.And I think that's positive because even at a time when American Foreign Policy is not necessarily themost popular in the world our entertainment industry and our celebrities are still treated with a greatdeal of respect because their abilities, their competence, their professionalism and their engagement.And so I think that's a real asset that we have, that we ought to encourage more and more people whohave achieved positions in music or film or television or whatever else it is to be engaged in the worldof celebrity. In my case I haven't been involved in the AIDS issue but I was involved in internationalhunger issues when I was a member of Congress and as the Secretary of Agriculture, our governmentprovided millions of tons of food assistance to Sub-Saharan Africa. And because of that there are anawful lot of people like Angelina Jolie, Drew Barrymore and others who have made a career out ofdoing this kind of thing. And the other thing that I found is when celebrities' interfaces with politiciansit is just the most incredible explosion of chemistry you could imagine because each wants to be each other, that's the thing.I know members of Congress who there is one member of Congress who has written several songs,he has had his songs are recorded in movies, Senator Orrin Hatch, there are others who have been inseveral movies themselves and you get members of Congress together with celebrities it's a matchmade in heaven. And it doesn't always produce results but more than often what will happen is youwill see members of Congress who may represent very conservative districts and may say, well wedon't like Hollywood or we don't like the entertainment industry. You bring Angelina Jolie or BradPitt into their office and they overnight turn into great lovers of the American entertainment industry.So this is a business, celebrity is a business; it can have great influence on members of Congress as well.The other point I would make is this that the film industry particularly is as suitable to create imagesthat can go around the world. Just take a couple of them. The film Philadelphia did more to highlightthe AIDS epidemic than probably any Non Profit in the world did, to give people some idea what thisdisease was about, you think about it. The power of film is amazing. Look what's happening today orjust yesterday, a concert was held with over two billion people watching it world wide. Now part of itwas because the former Vice President of United States was involved. But part of it was because amovie was created called "An Inconvenient Truth" that served as the foundation to let peopleunderstand an issue which was important to the world. That's the issue of global warming andenvironmental change. And so I recognize that in the business that I am in now the importance andsignificance of the power of film to change the world and the benefits that having celebrities peopleof either honor or people of great professional reputation going out and selling that particular concept.And so but I don't want to over do the celebrity thing, it's not just celebrities. It's also people whohave the ability and the power and the interest to engage those of wealth. Those people who aren't ofwealth but have commitment and so I don't you know, we don't want to create the image thatcelebrity is the key to solving the world's problem. It is not the only key.But there are also films made about the fact that American is America is seen as a country that feelsthat celebrities are solving all the world's problem.No, and to be honest with you, some in our media accelerate that. I recall that when Paris Hilton cameout of the Los Angeles County Jail, it was covered live under all the major world news networks. Thatdoesn't necessarily help what we are trying to do here I don't think.But at the same time I do think we have to recognize that people who have achieved success in filmand television and sports can in fact access the world of media and the world of politics like an off a lotof people can need to do. So, and this relates to the power of the documentary film in particular,because documentary film are often what gets people motivated to going out and and trying to changethe world. The other thing film does, it not only involve celebrity but it gets people like in this roommotivated to want to change the world themselves which is obviously very, very key. So saying that Ithink that there is there is good and bad in having famous people get involved, but there is more goodthan bad certainly, particularly if they are genuinely committed; if its authentic and they mean whatthey are doing. And I think you certainly see people like Angelina Jolie and Ashley Judd and otherswho are clearly committed and not only are getting on the cameras but also giving from their personalbank accounts. And that's when you know that it's serious. So thank you very much, I appreciate it.Thank you Mr. Glickman. So we'll now move on to Dr. Lewis who I know has got some veryinteresting points to bring across.Well the first point is to tell you that you are elevating me to a celestial level I do not deserve. Doctorin no way applies to my name.Nice of you to use it nonetheless. I didn't know that Senator Orrin Hatch was a songwriter.I think it would benefit the world greatly if he can find himself to songwriting.- just to let you know, and and sometimes in politics it's easy to demonize the other side. But in hiscase he is actually a very good guy. And a and a good philanthropist even though he is a republican, I can say.I didn't say he wasn't a good guy. I didn't know he is a song writer. I am going to come at this in aslightly different way. I spent a number of years at UNICEF as you have heard. And UNICEF was theorganization which first used celebrities to advantage internationally. It began with Audrey Hepburnand Danny Kaye, both of whom were really quite remarkable. And when I was at UNICEF one of thethings I had to do was to oversee the celebrity involvement of people like Peter Ustinov and SeanConnery and others. And and I learned then that there was a very considerable impact that could bemade by celebrities if they were used cautiously and carefully and not inappropriately to advanceparticular issues and particular causes. And there is absolutely no question that this litany of celebritieswho have suddenly emerged in the world; from Bono to Geldof to Oprah to Alicia Keys to AngelinaJolie, Brad Pitt, Richard Gere; the entire range through to Madonna who have adopted Africa as thefocus of their interest. They have obviously made a difference. And they have most certainly raisedawareness and consciousness of the AIDS issue.But I would like to make the point that the reason we have celebrity leadership now is in the absence ofpolitical leadership. This this fascinating phenomenon would not be happening with the great samedegree of intensity if there was some political leadership on these issues which made a measurableimpact. And if you take a look if you take a look at the G8 for example; over the last several years ofsummit meetings there hasn't been a single voice to which you can point which speaks withauthenticity and feeling about this extraordinary carnage on the African continent and beyond which iscompletely destroying countries, societies, communities, families in a way which is individually andcollectively heartbreaking. So the celebrities step in where the politicians fear to tread. As a matter offact the change that is now coming lies in the fact that Gordon Brown has emerged as Prime Ministerof the United Kingdom. And for the first time we will have a principle voice on the issues of povertyand disease and conflict in the developing world. And you will see a gradual shift when the politics ofthe United States change as well in a year or so from now.You will see a gradual I am a Canadian, I am permitted to say these things. When when there is awhen there is a shift in the world to a more enlightened and progressive leadership you will seecelebrities doing what they do best which is raising consciousness and raising awareness. But they cannever raise the resources collectively which are required to defeat the pandemic of AIDS. We aretalking about tens of billions of dollars every year. And although some thing creative and inspired asthe Red campaign may raise tens of millions and other campaigns may raise equivalent amounts, theynever begin to approximate the need, the need can only come from governments and that's were thepressure should be applied. And don't engage in the self dilutions, forgive me Dan, that politicianshave that celebrities have any undue influence on politicians. At this last G8 summit in Germany,Bono and Geldof were all over every single G8 leader in private meetings and conversations andinformative; and it may not a tinker's damn to what the G8 did, which was virtually nothing on thepandemic in Africa. It requires the mobilization of citizenry to get the money to the grassroots and getthe political leadership to behave responsibly.And just to add one last acerbic note because you wouldn't wish me to be congenial, I want too tell youthat that remarkable issue of Vanity Fair which doesn't just have Rock on the cover, but has AliciaKeys on the cover and has George Clooney on the cover, it has got 20 different covers shot brilliantly.There are many people who feel that that is the ultimate commercialization of the AIDS pandemic.That is reducing one of the most significant diseases in the world into a commercial exchange and onehas to ask oneself whether that's the objective we hope to achieve.But just let me challenge on this for a second because you the putting the celebrity on the covermakes some body go to buy the magazine and read about the issue that is covered all throughout theissue of Vanity Fair. How about the real people and the real NGOs on the ground who are doing the work? Is that not -?As a matter of fact it talks far more about the celebrities than it talks about the NGO's the reasonthe reason I love what Wyclef does is because he understands as very few do that change happens atthe grassroots and that ultimately that's the way we will defeat the pandemic.And and you cannot for ever engage in the assumption that simply the notoriety of celebrity willeffect social change; although I am perfectly willing look, I love celebrities, I throw their namesaround, I am 69 years old. It's all I have left in life. When I was in Malawi last fall I was staying at aninteresting hotel and when the manger of the hotel took me into my hotel room, he said "Mr. Lewis, Ifeel I should tell you we are giving you the room that Madonna just vacated."And I had a moment erotic levitation; I was almost beside myself with excitement.But there are limitations. Thank you.Thank you very much. Do not fear; you all have the chance to ask Mr. Lewis some provocativequestions in a minute. With no further adieu we will move on to what would you like yourself to beI have not forgotten that. But he challenges me every time I give him a different name. So let's just say Wyclef Jean.All right. First thing I would like to say is I need to know that room that you were there. And it's apleasure to be in Aspen, my experience on the plane coming down that was scary with the mountsand all of that, I heard in the background "ma-la-ma-la-la-bam-ba". And I said, "Yeah, damn I hopethis plane knows who I am know who I am." But you know I am listening the history these two fineyoung men you know; and you know the academics I feel really intimidated, because there was somewords that I did not understand.I told you I said. So as a rebuttal what I will do is I will apply ghetto slang. You know I am serious.Well I definitely I definitely agree with a lot of things. One of them is most of the things that I wasdoing in Haiti, when I was going back to Haiti, when I heard about gangs cutting off the heads ofchildren and all types of things like that that was going on to my country. When I got on the plane to goto Haiti, I did not find a publicist, I did not find a television station I didn't find anybody. I just got onto plane, me and my cousin, and we went to Haiti. And I feel that you know there is a definite void inpolitics and but being that there is a void in politics we as celebrities have no choice but to step up,because what happens is if we don't step up it looks like the way the world is going right now, no oneis really stepping up.Now we are not step in because we are trying to be the politicians. I mean I met Nancy Pelosi a fewtimes, you know and that's my little home, you know what I am saying and she was like she waslike, "You know Wyclef, you know we love you. We will do anything for you you know." I was like,"Yeah." I was like "Make me invincible. I don't never want to get another ticket in New York Cityagain." And there is something about when the politician meets the celebrity and the connection. Butthe fact about it is there is reason why you have government. And then there is a reason why you havedifferent funds around the world. So no matter how much we petition we cannot get to those funds.Those funds will not be released. I could do semi back flips, semi back flip, back flip. It would not bereleased. I think it's up to you the people to give by pass that we are celebrities and we are going to dowe don't do. For example we celebrities we do go to the bathroom and our pooh-poohs do stink, justto let you know. But the thing about it is if we can get pass the celebrity right, there use to be a timeAmerica when we did not agree with some thing, we would challenge the government.You know, and I think or might my plane might just fall down now, so you all know who did it.And I think that we need to go back to the days were I think "celebrityism" is commercialized to apoint, were we are looking at "Oh look what Wyclef is doing. Oh look at Angelina is doing, look atSean" and we are ignoring the real issue. The real issue is that AIDS kill and AIDS is spreadingthroughout Africa killing everything moving. That's the reality of it. No matter how good we look andhow nice we speak and we articulate, right, the reality about it is after we take a little trip to Africa anddo what we are going to do; we go back to a big mansion. And once we go back to this big mansion theissue still stands. So I think what I did in Haiti was for the AIDS issue I believe that the youth is thefuture. The youth is the future. And the thing about it is we have to put power in your hands. So when Iwas talking about rap music what I meant by that was rap is words. So with words we cancommunicate. So sometime the kids find it much more cooler when we say it than when the politiciansay it. And I think that's where we could come to play in that sense. I don't think we could come intoplay as far as raising billions and billions of dollars. But I think what we can do is, if you a kid and yougive him peer pressure, because you know you don't really want to strap up or you don't really youknow what I am saying is the trend, you know what I am saying I got to get it right, you heard meyou know what it is? My man's doing it, so I am going to do it.And all of a sudden you might hear 50 and a song as they Protect Yourself, I think that you will morelisten to if a politician said it. So I am more yeah, so I am more you know I am more here just toit's very important to let you all know that I am here because I want to hear what's on your mind andwhat are you thinking and how I can help you understand the seriousness of AIDS and how I couldtransmit a message to you that I want to leave here tonight that you could take back to your friends.So thank you.